From lhoover@ivory.trentu.ca Sat Nov 26 19:16:35 EST 1994
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From: lhoover@ivory.trentu.ca (Larry Hoover, Chemistry Department)
Subject: Re: Deer fence
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In article <3aur3i$min@ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>, MarkZall@ix.netcom.com (Mark Zaller) writes:
>The deer eat almost everything at a house/farm I have, and I now want to 
>plant several hundred fruit trees and grape vines. I think a fence is 
>the best way to minimize the problem since I am sometimes gone for 
>several weeks at a time. There is an exisiting 4 ft barbed wire fence 
>around the perimeter that doesn't even slow them down. Locals tell me a 
>fence needs to be 8 feet high to stop them, but any fence over 6 ft must 
>have a 50 ft set back from the property line.
>
>Instead of an 8 ft fence I am thinking of a 6 ft fence 2.5-3.5 ft in 
>from the barbed wire fence around 2 acres. I hear that deer can jump 
>high, or jump far, but not high and far. Has anybody studied the way a 
>deer jumps a tall fence? Do they take a 6 ft fence on the run, or stop 
>and jump? How far apart should I space the two fences so that a deer 
>can't jump from between the two fences, or over both of them together ? 
>2.5, 3, 3.5 ft ? Has anybody tried the two fence idea?
>
>-Mark Zaller

Based on the requirements of the local deer-farming community (over 100 
dedicated deer farms in my area of Ontario), an eight foot fence is indeed 
essential. It has also been found that a truly motivated deer *can* clear 
one of these. It occurs to me that a six foot fence might work, if at the 
top a T-shaped cross piece is added. This may then prevent the long and 
high jumps which the deer might attempt.


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From shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu Sat Nov 26 19:18:10 EST 1994
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From: shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore)
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Subject: Re: Deer fence
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In article <1994Nov23.143728.11121@blaze.trentu.ca> lhoover@ivory.trentu.ca writes:
>It occurs to me that a six foot fence might work, if at the 
>top a T-shaped cross piece is added. This may then prevent the long and 
>high jumps which the deer might attempt.

Maybe, but last fall I saw a deer sail over a 5' electrified
fence from a standstill.  Deer can really jump.
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From mkosiak@analysts.com Fri Mar 15 23:01:00 EST 1996
Article: 111667 of rec.gardens
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Latest issue of field & stream says to put fishing line at the 4ft 5ft 
6ft level.

The deer will walk into the fishing line, but they WILL not jump over 
something they cannot see!!!

Which is why fencing is not really a solution because deer can see the 
fence.

Martin Kosiak




From schaem@velo.asd.sgi.com Fri Mar 15 23:02:09 EST 1996
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From: schaem@velo.asd.sgi.com (Greg Schaem)
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In article <4hf5ru$g1l@castle.nando.net>, martin kosiak
<mkosiak@analysts.com> writes:
|> Latest issue of field & stream says to put fishing line at the 4ft 5ft 
|> 6ft level.
|> 
|> The deer will walk into the fishing line, but they WILL not jump over 
|> something they cannot see!!!
|> 
|> Which is why fencing is not really a solution because deer can see the 
|> fence.
|> 
|> Martin Kosiak
|> 
|> 

Last year I put up a fishing wire fence around my garden.  It kept the deer out
for almost a month.  It was only 5 1/2 feet high.  It always seems to come down
to an 8 ft. or taller fence, or maybe a slanted inward fence - everything else 
only works temporarily.


Greg

Date: 10 Jun 1999 11:09:19 -0400
From: Bill Robinson <roseguy@gte.net>
To: garden-ecosystems@metalab.unc.edu
Subject: Re: Repelling deer with coyote urine


The question was asked if coyote urine was effective as
a deer repellant. Human hair, moth balls, red pepper,
various kinds of urine and lots of other stuff has been
tried timne and again as deer repellants. Some of it
may work but in the long run, the deer seem smart
enough to figure the bluff and they seem to win in the
end.

Deer can jump high but they can not jump wide. Two
high fences about five feet apart will keep them out.
Use chain-link or open wire for the outer fence and a
nearly solid fence or wall for the inner fence so the
deer can see that they have the two fences to clear.



