Dr. Paul S. Dixon, Pastor
Ladd Hill Bible Church
Wilsonville, Oregon
On Wed, 29 May 1996 mfox@ms.rose.cc.ok.us wrote:
> FROM too long. Original FROM is 'Paul Dixon - Ladd Hill Bible Church
> <pauld@iclnet93.iclnet.org>'
>
> ---------------------- Original Message Follows ----------------------
>
> The problem with most interpretations of Acts 2:38 is a logical one. The
> conditional thought behind the verse is simply this:
> If you repent and are baptized, then your sins will be forgiven.
>
> It is invalid to deduce the negation, that is, "if you repent and are not
> baptized, then your sins will not be forgiven." That simply does not
> follow logically. Technically, "If A and B, then C" means simply on the
> condition of both A and B, then C follows. It does not imply "if not (A
> and B), then not C." This is the negation. One of the ways the negation
> exists here is, "if A and not B, then not C." This is the form of Acts
> 2:38. We do not have to resort to fancy exegetical gymnastics in order
> to show baptism is not required. It is not, because logic forbids it
> here. Baptism would be required only if such a statement as "if a man
> is not baptized, then his sins are not forgiven" can be found.
> Fortunately, none can be found in Scripture.
>
> On the contrary, the negation for belief and/or repentance is found in
> numerous passages (Jn 8:24, Mk 16:16b).
>
> Let us not abuse the logic of the conditional thoughts in Scripture.
>
>
> Dr. Paul S. Dixon, Pastor
> Ladd Hill Bible Church
> Wilsonville, Oregon
>
> Marion Fox here: Paul has committed a grave error in logic. Paul Dixon
> stated:
> Technically, "If A and B, then C" means simply on the
> condition of both A and B, then C follows. It does not imply "if not (A
> and B), then not C." This is the negation. One of the ways the negation
> exists here is, "if A and not B, then not C."
>
> Marion here again:
>
> The problem with this assertion is that it violates the basic rules of
> logic.
> The statement: "If A and B, then C" means if either not A or not B then
> not C."
> I quote Stephen Barker (but could quote several logic books): "The way in
> which
> an ordinary conjunctive sentence is true is also straightforward. The
> conjunction is
> true when both its parts are true; otherwise it is false. Using the
> ampersand as our
> symbol for truth-functional conjunction, we can abbreviate "p and q" as "p
> & q."
> p q p & q
> true true true
> false true false
> true false false
> false false false
>
> Thus, for instance, the sentence "It will rain and it will get colder" is
> true if it rains and
> also gets colder, but it is false if either one of these things fail to
> happen.
> Barker, Stephen F. (1974). The Elements of Logic. 2nd ed. New York:
> McGraw-Hill Book Co. ISBN 0-07-003718-3
>
> Anyone who knows how to read a truth table knows that you have overlooked a
> fundamental principle of logic. If you wish I can quote several other
> logic books
> that say essentially the same thing!
>
> Logically, what Acts 2:38 is saying is: "you must both repent and be
> baptized in order to
> have remission of sins and if you either do not repent or are not baptized
> you will not have
> remission of sins." This can be easily established by the usage of
> DeMorgan's Theorem
> (a theorem in logic). This same reasoning can be applied to Mark 16:15-16.
>
>
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