Inceptive aorist: when is it really inceptive?

Mr. Timothy T. Dickens (
Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:19:02 -0500 (EST)

At 09:45 AM 12/31/96 EST, James H. Vellenga wrote:

>> This might also be useful in explaining the apparant contradiction between 1
>> John 2:1 and 1 John 3:9. In 2:1, John says GRAFW hUMIN hINA MH AMARTHTE.
>> Aorist, hence with perfective sense: "I write to you so that you will not
>> commit sin".

TTD: Hey, Isn't 'will not' a future and not a 'perfect' in any kinda way?

In 3:9, John says that someone born of God OU DUNATAI
>> hAMARTANEIN. Present, hence with the imperfective sense: "can not habitually
>> sin".

TTD: what's wrong with '. . .is not able to sin"?

He also says that someone born of God hAMARTIAN OU POIEI. Present,
>> imperfective: "does not habitually sin".

TTD: wouldn't 'POIEI' be present indicative active, 3rd. pers. sing (thus,
not the imperfect[ive] at all?

TTD: I know that I am walking in on this conversation somewhat midway, but
apsect of Greek verbs excite me beyond your wildest imagination!!! I wonder
is it really possible to read these verbs as mentioned above. I do not tend
to think so, bit I will stay tuned.

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Timothy T. Dickens
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