Re: Q and Papias

While it's possible to make sense of the birth narratives as "tacked 
on" to a Marcan core, it also makes sense to see them as intimately 
woven with the larger body of the texts.  It is certainly possible to 
find narrative patterns for both Luke and Matthew which include the 
birth narratives.

This is not necessarily an argument against Q, however.  
Author/editors are entirely capable of taking traditional material 
and reforming it.  Though Matthew and Luke both use Mark and Q, they 
are very different gospels.

Greg Carey
Graduate Department of Religion
Vanderbilt University