b-greek-digest V1 #568

b-greek-digest            Tuesday, 7 February 1995      Volume 01 : Number 568

In this issue:

        authentein - To claim authorship?
        Re: Thesaurus Linguae Graecae 
        Lu. 10:1 [DUO] 
        Cosgrove Gk. Preps. 


From: David Last <D.Last@mmu.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 11:08:50 GMT
Subject: authentein - To claim authorship?

1 Timothy 2:12 reads:

R & C Kroeger in their book _I suffer not a woman_ (Baker, 1992)
discuss the word *authentein* in 1 Timothy 2:12.  They argue that the
most plausible definition of the word here is "To represent oneself
as the author, originator, or source of something", "to claim
authorship" (page 102).  They do not offer any unambiguous examples
of such a usage but appeal to the authority of late Renaiassance
lexicographers.  ("In the late Renaissance..scholars studied
classical texts more thoroughly than today and had at their disposal
materials to which we no longer have access..").  The only examples
they do offer are far from convincing and can more plausibly be read
otherwise.  Can anybody out there cite an example where authentein
clearly has their preferred meaning?

David Last


From: "Theodore F. Brunner" <tbrunner@uci.edu>
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 08:23:29 -0800
Subject: Re: Thesaurus Linguae Graecae 

>        I am working with CD-ROM #D from TLG which contains Greek Literature.
>        The problem I am having is that the CD came only with data and no
>        programs for accessing that data.  I'm wondering if anyone on the
>        list knows what programs would be good for utilizing this CD.
>        I have a fax from the company that issues the disk which cites several
>        programs that would be useful.  These are: TLG Workplace 3.0,
>        PANDORA, and SNS-GREEK & LATIN 3.0.  I'm going to ftp a copy of
>        CHIRON from oakland and see how I like it, but TLG Workplace looks
>        better from the description.
>        I'd like to be able to do word searches and concordance studies
>        with the software.  This looks like a great disk, but I need to be
>        able to access it!
>   -----------------------------------------------------------
>  /    Travis Bauer      /   Life is like an analogy. . .   /
> /   Jamestown College  /                                 /


Travis Bauer (et al.):

We will be happy to help with information as available to us.  Note
addresses  and phone/Fax numbers below.

Ted Brunner

 Theodore F. Brunner, Director              Phone:    (714) 824-7031
 Thesaurus Linguae Graecae                  FAX:      (714) 824-8434
 University of California Irvine
 Irvine, CA 92717-5550 USA                  E-Mail:   TBRUNNER@UCI.EDU


From: Dvdmoore@aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:24:54 -0500
Subject: Lu. 10:1 [DUO] 

     A friend recently asked me about the DUO after E(BDOMHKONTA in Lu. 10:1
( a reading supported by P75, B, D, 0181, _et al._).  As we were discussing
it, we both seemed to remember having heard the suggestion that the DUO might
refer to pairs--i.e. seventy groups of two--.  Does anyone know of any
commentator who has suggested this interpretation?  

     E(BDOMHKONTA DUO does seem to be proper Koine for seventy-two (See
Bl-DeB #63, 2), and I am unable to find lexical support for DUO alone as
"pairs."  Besides, "two by two" is already expressed in v. 1b.  Has anyone
else heard the interpretation suggested above?

David L. Moore


From: Bill Mounce <bill.mounce@on-ramp.ior.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 16:30:41 -0700
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From: Yingerk@aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 00:05:44 -0500
Subject: Cosgrove Gk. Preps. 

In my doctoral work (Sheffield Univ.) on judgment according to works in
Paul's letters, I've run across an article by Charles Cosgrove:
"Justification in Paul: A Linguistic and Theological Reflection," JBL 106
(1987) 653-670, and am not quite sure what to make of it. His argument seems
to make sense, but Dunn calls it a "dubious distinction" (Romans 1-8 [WBC
38a; 1988] 154; no explanation). I can find no other reaction to the article.

His argument concerns Paul's use of prepositions with verbs of judgment and
justification (esp. pp. 655-660). He contends that Hellenistic Greek
convention was fairly consistent in using EPI + dative or KATA + accusative
with such verbs to disignate the "specifically evidential basis" of judgment
(657). Paul's use of DIKAIOUN with EK + genitive, on the other, is quite rare
in the same sources. Paul, however, uses this last-mentioned expression of
instrumentality so consistently in disjoining works of the law from being
justified, and in relating faith to justification, while never once turning
to constructions (above) which express the evidential basis or norm of judgmen
t, that Cosgrove suspects an interest in instrumentality when using EK, and
in the norm (=evidence) for judgment when using KATA. (The one unambiguous
exception, he admits, is Phil 3:9, where justification is EPI TE_ PISTEI
[evidential?].) He then suggests that Paul's unusual DIKAIOUN + EK
corresponds to the more common Greek APO (=instrumentality), as confirmed by
Paul's ability to substitute other 'instrumental' constructions (DIA + genitiv
e; EN, or simple dative), but never 'evidential' ones (EPI, KATA, or DIA +
On this basis he posits a clear-cut distinction between judgment according to
deeds (Rom 2:6, KATA = evidential) and justification from the works of the
law (EKS ERGWN NOMOU = instrumentality), and thus avoids any contradiction
between the two.
Does anyone know of any reviews or comments related to this article or
argument? Or do you have any thoughts yourself? 


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