b-greek-digest V1 #6

b-greek-digest           Thursday, 16 November 1995     Volume 01 : Number 006

In this issue:

        Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 04:18:26 -0700
        Re: NT authorship
        how to transliterate / scandinavian participants 
        Re: how to transliterate / scandinavian participants 


From: Clint Cozier <ccozier@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 04:18:26 -0700
Subject: Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 04:18:26 -0700

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From: Robert Groover <groover@netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 05:31:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: subscribe

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I hope this won't hit the list (and I apologize if it does), but 
I don't have any other address for this list, and I would like 
to subscribe.

I'm a rusty Classics major trying to keep my Greek current for Bible and 
patristics - I've found (as I guess we all have) that the Greek is 
indispensible to accurate reading.  I've got basic references here 
(Kittel and L&S), but nobody to talk to about them (a common problem 
outside of academia), so I'm quite excited about this list.

Robert Groover   groover@netcom.com   (PGP key on request)
Member ECS, AVS, ACM, OSA, Sen.Mem.IEEE, Reg'd Patent Atty
        "All men by nature desire knowledge."


From: "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:46:54 -0600
Subject: Re: NT authorship

At 11:08 PM 11/14/95, Edgar M. Krentz wrote:
>Tim, it's just the pure habit developed to use inclusive language in
>teaching at a seminary where 50% of the students are women. I have no
>theory about women authorship of any NT book--outside of telling students
>of Adolf von Harnack's theory about Priscilla as the author of Hebrews.
>What David Moore wrote is on target, though, like Origen, I hold that God
>alone knows who wrote Hebrews.
>I am not against such a theory on principle; but at present I know of no
>serious reason to hold that a woman wrote any NT book.

Now, I really don't understand all this posturing. ;-) There are many
indeed on this list who hold God to be the author of the Bible, and here we
are denying that She wrote it!

Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University
One Brookings Drive, St. Louis, MO, USA 63130
(314) 935-4018
cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu  OR cwc@oui.com
WWW: http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~cwconrad/


From: Timster132@aol.com
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 17:02:10 -0500
Subject: KELEUSMA 


You asked...
<<I subscribed to this list because I need some information for a paper
I'm writing.  I need to know how the word "keleuma" which is translated
"shout" in 1 Thessalonians 4, 16 is used in extra-Biblical literature.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I also could used some
documentation for footnoting.>>

  You'll find KELEUSMA (or KELEUSMATOS) used by 
Josephus in Antiquities 17:140, 199
Philo in Abr. 116
Proverbs 30:27, LXX

  I particularly like the image in Proverbs (LXX), since I can imagine
hearing the sound of the locusts coming.  (Note that the Hebrew Masoretic
reads a bit differently.  The LXX translators may have read KuLo "all of
them" as KoL "voice".)

  Good luck.

  Tim Staker


From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_S=F8ndergaard?= <stefan@mail.teledanmark.dk>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 23:13:55 +-100
Subject: how to transliterate / scandinavian participants 


I have searched the internet in order to find something like a fact-
sheet on how to tranliterate Greek and Hebrew into e-mail-able 
characters. Could someone give me a hint on where to look, please?

Also I plan to make an academical/theological maillist for scandi-
navian languages (Danish, Norwegian and Swedish) soon. 

Should anybody be interested: Send me a note and I will mail you 
back when the list starts.

Stefan Soendergaard                           (stefan@inform-bbs.dk)

Theological student at The University of Aarhus, Denmark.


From: Bruce Terry <terry@bible.acu.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:39:33 CST
Subject: Re: how to transliterate / scandinavian participants 

On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Stefan Soendergaard wrote:

>I have searched the internet in order to find something like a fact-
>sheet on how to tranliterate Greek and Hebrew into e-mail-able 
>characters. Could someone give me a hint on where to look, please?

Our archive was accidentally destroyed last week, so I am posting this again. 
The non-standardized letters are xi, chi, psi, eta, and omega.

There is no standard transliteration scheme on B-Greek.  However, most people
will use one of the following six schemes.  Note that these schemes use either
upper case or lower case, not both, since a change in case may signify a
different letter.

LETTERS        TLG/CCAT       Simplified          Modified        Standard
ACCENTS        Beta Code    CAPS     Lower      CAPS     Lower    Digraph

alpha              A         A         a         A         a         a
beta               B         B         b         B         b         b
gamma              G         G         g         G         g         g
delta              D         D         d         D         d         d
epsilon            E         E         e         E         e         e
zeta               Z         Z         z         Z         z         z
eta                H         H         E         H         E         E
theta              Q         Q         q         Q         q         th
iota               I         I         i         I         i         i
kappa              K         K         k         K         k         k
lambda             L         L         l         L         l         l
mu                 M         M         m         M         m         m
nu                 N         N         n         N         n         n
xi                 C         C         c         X         x         x
omicron            O         O         o         O         o         o
pi                 P         P         p         P         p         p
rho                R         R         r         R         r         r
sigma              S         S         s         S         s         s
tau                T         T         t         T         t         t
upsilon            U         U         u         U         u         u
phi                F         F         f         F         f         ph
chi                X         X         x         C         c         ch
psi                Y         Y         y         V         v         ps
omega              W         W         O         W         O         O
digamma            V         f                   w
koppa                        q                   q

iota subscript     |         i                   i
smooth breathing   )
rough breathing    (         h         (         h         h         h
acute accent       /         /         /         /
circumflex accent  =         @         =         ~
grave accent       \         \         \         \
diaeresis          +

The following are the same for all schemes.

upper case         *
 (following character is upper case)
apostrophe         '
hyphen             -
comma              ,
period             .
raised dot (colon) :
question mark      :
dash               _

Note that both medial and final sigma are transliterated the same.

Accents are usually omitted for all schemes except TLG unless they are
necessary for the sense of the post.

Breathing marks and the * to indicate upper-case are written at the beginning
of the word.

Accents and diacritical marks are written directly after the coding for the
character above and below which they are located in the source document.  They
follow the second character of a diphthong. 

Note on TLG/CCAT Beta code keyboard layout: This was originally created to
enable appropriate software programs to translate TLG coded texts into
different Greek fonts used by different platforms.

Bruce Terry                            E-MAIL: terry@bible.acu.edu
Box 8426, ACU Station		       Phone:  915/674-3759
Abilene, Texas 79699		       Fax:    915/674-3769


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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:54:50 -0500
Subject: b-greek 

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