b-greek-digest V1 #72

b-greek-digest           Wednesday, 10 January 1996     Volume 01 : Number 072

In this issue:

        Friberg vs. Perschbacher Concordance
        L. William Countryman's beginning Greek text 
        Vritical Questions in Johannine Literature


From: David Moore <dvdmoore@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 11:57:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: RE:Translating

On 8 Jan 1996, Charles W. Bradley wrote:

> >I'm wondering whether this is really meant to argue that critical
> >methodology should NOT be taught in the seminaries. I hope >not. While
> reasoning may raise problems for faith, I don't see >much that seminaries
> >can teach if they abandon reasoning altogether.
> I did not mean to imply a  tension between faith and reason or rationality in
> posting the verses from Hebrews.  "...the term faith is restricted to the assent
> to those truths which rest upon the direct testimony of God alone, objectively
> revealed in the Scriptures, as discerned through spiritual illumination.."
> [.A.A. Hodge]. 
	The role of the Spirit in interpretation is difficult to pin down,
and so, often, not emphatically emphasized by scholars.  The text is more
concrete and so lends itself to critical evaluation both in terms of
establishing what the text is and in interpreting what it says. 

	Certainly, the legitimate action and the true message of the 
Spirit are delineated in the written Scriptures; and, even among 
Pentecostals, actions or interpretations or messages that purport to be 
from the Holy Spirit but are at odds with the written message of 
Scripture are mot accepted as legitimate.

	There doesn't seem to be any way other than by sound exegesis to
"test the spirits."  To say that we should believe something or some
interpretation because, to our knowledge, and as far as we can remember,
it was always and everywhere so believed by Christians we respect is,
IMHO, a false criterion. 

	The Scriptures certainly indicate that there is a key role to be
played by the Holy Spirit in the interpretation of biblical truth.  But
just how that role is to be played still largely remains to be defined -
at least among biblical scholars. 

David L. Moore                             Southeastern Spanish District
Miami, Florida                               of the  Assemblies of God
dvdmoore@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us           Department of Education


From: Spanky <Spanky@our.gang>
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 12:22:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Friberg vs. Perschbacher Concordance

I am considering the Perschbacher and the revised Friberg concordances for NT Greek.  Any comments on which will give me better service in the long run?

Thanks in advance.


From: "A.T. Kraabel" <kraabela@martin.luther.edu>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 96 16:48:40 CST
Subject: L. William Countryman's beginning Greek text 

The book is THE NEW TESTAMENT IS IN GREEK (Eerdmans 1993).  It does an 
introduction to Biblical Greek in a semester, inductively on the basis of 
the three letters of John.

It looks like a good approach, but I have not taught it and so can't be 
sure.  Anyone out there who has tried it, so we may benefit from your 


 A. T. Kraabel, Dean of the College, Luther College, Decorah IA 52101

INTERNET kraabela@luther.edu       OFFICE 319/387-1005  FAX 387-2158
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From: Kenneth Litwak <kenneth@sybase.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:10:55 +0800
Subject: Vritical Questions in Johannine Literature

  I know this question wil be off-topic, but I tried it on JOHNLITR to no avail.
It seems  posters on that list are mainly interested in flaming Jehovah's
Witnesses and each other.  Anyway, I'd would appreciate input on general info
and especially bibliography, on two related questions which I need to 
resolve for my doctoral program:
1.  What are the key, scholarly issues in Johannine literature?  I assume
the addition of John 21 and the make-up of the community are issues, but
I don't know what else are commonly recognized as the main issues or questions.
2.  What is the current state of Johannine studies?  That is, what are the
dominant positions currently, what are the current topics of interest beyond
#1 and who is a must read for the current state of things?  
I'm looking for info past what I might get from reading the Anchor Bible 
Dictionary or Dictionary of Jesus and the Gospels.  Those are starting places
for me, but not sufficient.  If anyhone is really interested, I can give you
more gackground about what I'm looking for and why privately.  You can reply
to my privately or publicly if you think others would be interested.  Thanks
much in advance.  

Ken Litwak
Bezerkley, CA


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