b-greek-digest V1 #135

b-greek-digest              Sunday, 3 March 1996        Volume 01 : Number 135

In this issue:

        Reply-To: wtucker@orednet.org 
        Learning Greek
        Help on graphe artios
        Re: Aquinas on Hebrews 1:10


From: weston tucker <wtucker@orednet.org>
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:20:37 -0800
Subject: Reply-To: wtucker@orednet.org 


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From: mark.arvid.johnson@chrysalis.org
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 96 10:45:03 -0600
Subject: Learning Greek


For one wanting to learn Greek well in all its ancient forms, what is 
thought of starting Greek with Homer, say Clyde Pharr's -Homeric Greek-, 
then moving to Koine and Attic Greek, rather than the traditional start 
in Attic Greek? Thanx in advance.

I don't watch TV.  I watch my monitor.
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From: mark.arvid.johnson@chrysalis.org
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 96 10:45:01 -0600
Subject: Help on graphe artios


Ed Krentz dixit:

>I one holds to the Pauline authorship of the pastoral epistles, one can
>still appropriate my suggestion (I forget where I first read of the
>possibility!), since the third part of the canon was equally fluid in
>Paul's lifetime, as Luke 24:44 (law, prophets, Psalms) suggests. 
>Josephus is the first to list the 24 (= 39) book canon in his treatise 
>_In Apionem_; but he cannot be pressed to argue that his view in the 
>first decade of the second century was universally held by Jews.

I question the idea that there was substantial uncertainty in early 
first century Judaism concerning the Hebrew scriptures. I recommend the 
following works for further reference:

        -The Old Testament Canon of the New Testament Church-
        Roger Beckwith

        -Reclaiming the Dead Sea Scrolls-
        Lawrence H. Schiffman

I do not understand why Josephus cannot be taken to argue that his view 
in the first decade of the second century was universally held by Jews.

        We have given practical proof for our reverence for our own 
        Scriptures. For, although such long ages have now passed, no one 
        has ventured to add, or to remove, or to alter anything, and it 
        is an instinct with every Jew, from the day of his birth, to 
        regard them as the decrees of God, to abide by them, and (if 
        need be) cheerfully to die for them. Time and again ere now the 
        sight has been witnessed of prisoners enduring tortures and 
        death in every form in the theatres rather than utter a single 
        word against the laws and the accompanying records.

        Against Apion, 1.7f., or 1.37-47: quoted in Beckwith, p. 119.

Also, I do not see how Luke 24:44 (Law, Prophets, Psalms) suggests the 
third part of the canon was fluid in Paul's lifetime. 

Deus est satis.
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From: "Alan D. Bulley" <s458507@aix1.uottawa.ca>
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 14:25:27 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Aquinas on Hebrews 1:10

On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, MR A R CRAIG wrote:

> I'm trying to locate where St. Thomas Aquinas might have given some
> comment(s) on Hebrews 1:10.  Can anyone help?  Thanks, A. Craig.

Could it be in Raphael Cai, ed., _Super epistolas Sancti Pauli lectura: 
ad Hebraeos lectura_ (Turin/Rome: Marietti, 1953) 2.335-506?
Alan D. Bulley                                                                  
Faculty of Theology/Faculte de theologie |s458507@aix1.uottawa.ca             
Saint Paul University/Universite St-Paul |abulley@spu.stpaul.uottawa.ca         
Ottawa, Canada                                                                  
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