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by Mark Jeong
February 28th, 2020, 10:38 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: What replaced the optative in Koine?
Replies: 14
Views: 1330

Re: What replaced the optative in Koine?

Bare subjunctive maybe. In Oxyrhynchus Papyri IV 744, a letter from a workman in Alexandria to his wife, circa 1 BC: εἴρηκας... ὅτι μή με ἐπιλάθης. πῶς δύναμαί σε ἐπιλαθεῖν; ἐρωτῶ σε οὖν ἵνα μὴ ἀγωνιάσης. Note: fill in the iota subscripts. I copied it as it is. Hmmm.. those subjunctives are all in ...
by Mark Jeong
February 27th, 2020, 11:22 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: What replaced the optative in Koine?
Replies: 14
Views: 1330

Re: What replaced the optative in Koine?

Thanks for your responses. Based on what you've said and what I found in Robertson, what do you think about these Koine alternatives? τοὺς ἵππους ἂν δοίη = τοὺς ἵππους τάχα δίδωσι / δεῖ αὐτὸν τοὺς ἵππους δοῦναι / ὀφείλει τοὺς ἵππους δοῦναι. τοὺς ἵππους λαβοίμεθα = ὄφελον τοὺς ἵππους ἐλαμβάνομεν (Ro...
by Mark Jeong
February 26th, 2020, 10:34 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: What replaced the optative in Koine?
Replies: 14
Views: 1330

Re: What replaced the optative in Koine?

Thanks for your responses. Based on what you've said and what I found in Robertson, what do you think about these Koine alternatives? τοὺς ἵππους ἂν δοίη = τοὺς ἵππους τάχα δίδωσι / δεῖ αὐτὸν τοὺς ἵππους δοῦναι / ὀφείλει τοὺς ἵππους δοῦναι. τοὺς ἵππους λαβοίμεθα = ὄφελον τοὺς ἵππους ἐλαμβάνομεν (Rob...
by Mark Jeong
February 22nd, 2020, 10:59 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: What replaced the optative in Koine?
Replies: 14
Views: 1330

What replaced the optative in Koine?

I've often heard that the optative gradually disappeared from spoken Koine and was replaced by the subjunctive, but none of the grammars actually list the functions of the optative under the subjunctive, since there don't seem to be any examples. For example, what takes the role of the potential opt...
by Mark Jeong
December 24th, 2019, 5:41 pm
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Audio of Philippians chapter 1 in Koine
Replies: 0
Views: 527

Audio of Philippians chapter 1 in Koine

As I mentioned in another thread, I'm trying to record some audio with a first-century Koine pronunciation. It's a bit different from Buth's scheme, though those who use Buth's scheme won't have trouble understanding it (hopefully). I wasn't sure where to post this so I'm sharing this here with anyo...
by Mark Jeong
December 15th, 2019, 4:38 pm
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Audio of Philemon in Koine
Replies: 3
Views: 677

Re: Audio of Philemon in Koine

Thanks for the feedback! I may try Philippians next.
by Mark Jeong
December 14th, 2019, 11:29 pm
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Audio of Philemon in Koine
Replies: 3
Views: 677

Audio of Philemon in Koine

I am attempting to switch over to a Koine (1st-2nd c. CE) pronunciation of Koine Greek from a restored Classical scheme. I've used Buth's books in the past so the pronunciation is not entirely new for me. Here's my attempt at reading Philemon from the SBLGNT: https://archive.org/details/philemon_201...
by Mark Jeong
August 26th, 2015, 9:28 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Classical Greek or Latin after Koine for NT studies?
Replies: 18
Views: 7197

Re: Classical Greek or Latin after Koine for NT studies?

A bigger picture may be needed. Is "three semesters of German" sufficient for a German literature prof or historical researcher? My simple advice, given freely for 40 years now, is by all means become fluent in Hebrew before doing a PhD. The academy doesn't require this? So we are much the poorer. ...
by Mark Jeong
August 26th, 2015, 9:23 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Classical Greek or Latin after Koine for NT studies?
Replies: 18
Views: 7197

Re: Classical Greek or Latin after Koine for NT studies?

As a current M.Div student at a seminary interested in applying for New Testament (NT) PhD programs, which is more important and would make me potentially more competitive - Latin or Classical Greek? Of the two, Latin will make you more attractive because you already have some Greek. I don't know o...
by Mark Jeong
August 26th, 2015, 9:18 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Classical Greek or Latin after Koine for NT studies?
Replies: 18
Views: 7197

Re: Classical Greek or Latin after Koine for NT studies?

Jonathan Robie wrote:
Ken M. Penner wrote:Of the two, Latin will make you more attractive because you already have some Greek.
Just how much more attractive? These pictures will give you an idea ...

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If Latin makes me that much more attractive.. I'm all in! :D

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