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by Peter Streitenberger
May 8th, 2019, 2:32 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1Peter 3,20 force of the prepositional phrase
Replies: 8
Views: 249

Re: 1Peter 3,20 force of the prepositional phrase

τοῦτο δʼ οἱ περὶ τὰς ἐργασίας ἀσχολούμενοι συνάγοντες ἀλήθουσιν ἢ συγκόπτουσι τὰς ἐχούσας τὸ ψῆγμα βώλους, διὰ δὲ τῶν ὑδάτων τῆς φύσεως τὸ γεῶδες πλύναντες παραδιδόασιν ἐν ταῖς καμίνοις εἰς τὴν χωνείαν. "This those in engaged in the work gather and grind or crush the clods having the gold dust, and...
by Peter Streitenberger
May 7th, 2019, 5:17 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1Peter 3,20 force of the prepositional phrase
Replies: 8
Views: 249

Re: 1Peter 3,20 force of the prepositional phrase

Dear Barry, thanks. I hope I can reformulate the question by referring to a dictionary (Friberg): διά preposition; I. with the genitive; (1) spatial through, by way of (JN 10.1); (2) temporal; (a) of a whole duration of time through, throughout (LU 5.5); (b) of time within which something takes plac...
by Peter Streitenberger
May 7th, 2019, 1:09 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1Peter 3,20 force of the prepositional phrase
Replies: 8
Views: 249

Re: 1Peter 3,20 force of the prepositional phrase

It is me again, one additional question: If Peter had constructed the preposition with the accusative, just as the example (Ctesias Fragmenta 1b.565), it would be clearly locally. Isn`t Ctestias a hint, as Peter did it the other way, to treat it as instrumental.

Plausible or not? Thx. P.
by Peter Streitenberger
May 7th, 2019, 12:01 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1Peter 3,20 force of the prepositional phrase
Replies: 8
Views: 249

Re: 1Peter 3,20 force of the prepositional phrase

dear both of you, thank you for the help! Barry, yes, I need to withdraw that example, it is accusative and so indeed no parallel.
I tend to your solution, maybe I find a real parallel. Thanks for far - at least two statements! Yours peter
by Peter Streitenberger
May 7th, 2019, 4:35 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1Peter 3,20 force of the prepositional phrase
Replies: 8
Views: 249

1Peter 3,20 force of the prepositional phrase

Dear friends of Greek, I may ask you a tricky (at least for me) question concerning 1Peter 3.20, where it states: ἀπειθήσασίν ποτε, ὅτε ἀπεξεδέχετο ἡ τοῦ θεοῦ μακροθυμία ἐν ἡμέραις Νῶε, κατασκευαζομένης κιβωτοῦ, εἰς ἣν ὀλίγαι, τοῦτ᾽ ἔστιν ὀκτὼ ψυχαί, διεσώθησαν δι᾽ ὕδατος• heretofore disobedient, wh...
by Peter Streitenberger
March 30th, 2019, 2:37 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Hebrews 2,10 - meaning of the Aorist participle
Replies: 9
Views: 536

Re: Hebrews 2,10 - meaning of the Aorist participle

Hi Peter, ... how something is performed ("in", "by"), ... This is the problem I was having with it. So the C-solution of you, Daniel, despite I have in my ear, that this is not an Aorist feature... This was an attempt to find out if I had understood the what BDR and Mike were trying to explain. I'...
by Peter Streitenberger
March 30th, 2019, 1:38 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Hebrews 2,10 - meaning of the Aorist participle
Replies: 9
Views: 536

Re: Hebrews 2,10 - meaning of the Aorist participle

Thanks Barry, ok, good to know - here is only the old Moulton free Grammar at hand, but I try to figure out how to get own examples with the TLG (the search options are better in Bible programs, but the Database is so huge - to interpret data is the challenge). Yes, your name is genuine German and I...
by Peter Streitenberger
March 29th, 2019, 7:18 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Hebrews 2,10 - meaning of the Aorist participle
Replies: 9
Views: 536

Re: Hebrews 2,10 - meaning of the Aorist participle

Dear Barry, nice to meet you! Oh, no, yes, there is a second problem: >The question of its implied antecedent was discussed above under αὐτῷ. At least this one is not tempting the rendering if you stay with "he", so the Lord Jesus or God, the father, can function as antecedent. But in the latter par...
by Peter Streitenberger
March 29th, 2019, 5:27 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Hebrews 2,10 - meaning of the Aorist participle
Replies: 9
Views: 536

Re: Hebrews 2,10 - meaning of the Aorist participle

Dear Mike and Daniel, >I don't think "modal' is the right word for "in bringing." Could be a matter of language. The German term for the expression of a "modus", how something is performed ("in", "by"), is just called "modal", could be disturbing as "modality" oder "a modal expression" are used for ...
by Peter Streitenberger
March 28th, 2019, 6:59 am
Forum: Greek Texts
Topic: γεγεγεννημενον in P66 (John 3:6)
Replies: 5
Views: 1030

Re: γεγεγεννημενον in P66 (John 3:6)

Dear friends, some years ago I did a small research on P66 with the following results: Passages with Singular readings: John 1:1ff, 8f, 11ff, 27, 29, 33ff, 45, 49f; 2:9ff, 15, 19f, 22f, 25; 3:2f, 6, 8, 11ff, 16, 19ff, 31ff; 4:1ff, 5f, 9, 11, 14f, 21, 31, 36, 39, 42, 48; 5:2, 5f, 8, 11, 14, 16, 19, 2...