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by Robert Crowe
November 4th, 2017, 7:39 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Romans 10:14 - πῶς δὲ πιστεύσωσιν οὗ οὐκ ἤκουσαν;
Replies: 11
Views: 393

Re: Romans 10:14 - πῶς δὲ πιστεύσωσιν οὗ οὐκ ἤκουσαν;

Robert, beyond the point the heard being the same as the believed, are you saying that ου would still be a direct object if it were 'indirect' in terms of hearing of/about that person, versus my assumption that that would be something other than a direct object? Would expect περὶ οὗ if it were 'of/...
by Robert Crowe
November 3rd, 2017, 1:37 pm
Forum: Seen on the Web
Topic: The First Woman to Translate the ‘Odyssey’ Into English
Replies: 7
Views: 295

Re: The First Woman to Translate the ‘Odyssey’ Into English

'Complicated' which virtually means 'Bastard' or 'Bitch' nowadays when describing a person, is hardly an apt epithet for the heroic Odysseus. Wilson claims she looked beyond dictionary entries, but this meaning for πολύτροπος is given in LSJ. Her boldness is to tag a man with it.
by Robert Crowe
November 3rd, 2017, 4:32 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Romans 10:14 - πῶς δὲ πιστεύσωσιν οὗ οὐκ ἤκουσαν;
Replies: 11
Views: 393

Re: Romans 10:14 - πῶς δὲ πιστεύσωσιν οὗ οὐκ ἤκουσαν;

It seems to me that the 'heard of' idea is a more complex construal, and that 'heard' would be simpler and more natural to hear. This direct object view is taken by commentators Cranfield, Morris, Dunn and Moo. Moo provides a subtler reading which seems to combine aspects of all these options: 'how...
by Robert Crowe
October 24th, 2017, 12:56 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: ἐγνώκατε vs. ἐγνώκειτε
Replies: 12
Views: 447

Re: ἐγνώκατε vs. ἐγνώκειτε

John 14:7 wrote: Εἰ ἐγνώκειτέ με, καὶ τὸν πατέρα μου ἐγνώκειτε ἄν· καὶ ἀπ’ ἄρτι γινώσκετε αὐτόν, καὶ ἑωράκατε αὐτόν It may be an invitation to know Jesus and hence God the Father, rather than saying in effect, "Of course you don't know the Father, because you don't know me." To give this sense the ...
by Robert Crowe
October 23rd, 2017, 7:21 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: ἐγνώκατε vs. ἐγνώκειτε
Replies: 12
Views: 447

Re: ἐγνώκατε vs. ἐγνώκειτε

Robert Crowe wrote: ↑October 23rd, 2017, 2:20 am Mod. Gk. no longer has this idiom. It uses ἄν with the past ind. and θά in the apodosis for ἄν. [A.T. Robertson 'A Grammar of the Greek New Testament' p1013] Did ATR assume a knowledge of Modern Greek on the part of his readers. Without such a backgr...
by Robert Crowe
October 22nd, 2017, 9:20 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: ἐγνώκατε vs. ἐγνώκειτε
Replies: 12
Views: 447

Re: ἐγνώκατε vs. ἐγνώκειτε

Verses in question for this verb are: Matthew 12:7 wrote: Εἰ δὲ ἐγνώκειτε τί ἐστιν, Ἔλεον θέλω καὶ οὐ θυσίαν, οὐκ ἂν κατεδικάσατε τοὺς ἀναιτίους. John 14:7 wrote: Εἰ ἐγνώκειτέ με, καὶ τὸν πατέρα μου ἐγνώκειτε ἄν· καὶ ἀπ’ ἄρτι γινώσκετε αὐτόν, καὶ ἑωράκατε αὐτόν An unfulfilled condition about past t...
by Robert Crowe
October 22nd, 2017, 11:01 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: ἐγνώκατε vs. ἐγνώκειτε
Replies: 12
Views: 447

Re: ἐγνώκατε vs. ἐγνώκειτε

Pluperfect ἠγνώκειτε or ἠγνώκετε. Taking ἐγνώκειτε as a possibility.
by Robert Crowe
October 22nd, 2017, 7:55 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: ἐγνώκατε vs. ἐγνώκειτε
Replies: 12
Views: 447

Re: ἐγνώκατε vs. ἐγνώκειτε

Classical perfect v pluperfect.
by Robert Crowe
October 20th, 2017, 9:54 am
Forum: Other
Topic: long alpha in dia?
Replies: 3
Views: 142

Re: long alpha in dia?

διᾱκονέω has a long α because it survives from an early stage of the language when compounding entailed vowel lengthening. So Pierre Chantraine: l'α long de dia- s'expliquerait par l'allongement des composés qui prouverait l'anciennté du term. [Dictionaire Étymologique de la Langue Grecque, p277] In...
by Robert Crowe
October 16th, 2017, 12:18 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: μοιχαλίς (ίδος) precedents or parallels for adjective
Replies: 5
Views: 225

Re: μοιχαλίς (ίδος) precedents or parallels for adjective

-τρια endings are common in Modern Greek for female occupations: μαθήτρια (female student), φοιτήτρια (female university student), πωλήτρια (saleswoman), διευθύντρια (female school-principal), εργάτρια (female worker). The single instance of μαθήτρια in Acts 9:36 appears to be the only example of th...