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by Bernd Strauss
September 6th, 2019, 11:19 am
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: Translation of the Words ἓν, ἤρξαντο, ἀναφορὰν ἔχειν
Replies: 14
Views: 719

Re: Translation of the Words ἓν, ἤρξαντο, ἀναφορὰν ἔχειν

Perhaps you meant to place your question in the beginners forum? It could be placed there. The word ἕν is not alone here. It is part of a phrase: πρὸς ἓν τέλος, which means "toward one end." The word ἕν "one" is neuter because it agrees with the word τέλος "end," which is neuter. I see now that the...
by Bernd Strauss
September 5th, 2019, 2:17 pm
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: Translation of the Words ἓν, ἤρξαντο, ἀναφορὰν ἔχειν
Replies: 14
Views: 719

Re: Translation of the Words ἓν, ἤρξαντο, ἀναφορὰν ἔχειν

I am aware that the preposition εν means "in." But there is another word, ἕνος (which has the form ἓν), which is given a definition which seems to allow for the rendering “one” in some contexts. There is also the word ἑνάς (which likewise has the form ἓν), and it is shown to be the equivalent of μον...
by Bernd Strauss
September 4th, 2019, 5:10 pm
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: Translation of the Words ἓν, ἤρξαντο, ἀναφορὰν ἔχειν
Replies: 14
Views: 719

Translation of the Words ἓν, ἤρξαντο, ἀναφορὰν ἔχειν

Polybius, Histories, book 4, chapter 28, sections 3-4: “ἐπεὶ δὲ τά τε κατὰ τὴν Ἰταλίαν καὶ κατὰ τὴν Ἑλλάδα καὶ κατὰ τὴν Ἀσίαν τὰς μὲν ἀρχὰς τῶν πολέμων τούτων ἰδίας εἰλήφει τὰς δὲ συντελείας κοινάς, καὶ τὴν ἐξήγησιν περὶ αὐτῶν ἐκρίναμεν ποιήσασθαι κατ᾿ ἰδίαν, ἕως ἂν ἐπὶ τὸν καιρὸν ἔλθωμεν τοῦτον ἐν ...
by Bernd Strauss
April 17th, 2019, 3:47 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: The Words Συντελεία and Τέλος in Mt 24
Replies: 12
Views: 2461

Re: The Words Συντελεία and Τέλος in Mt 24

Bill Ross wrote:
April 17th, 2019, 1:15 pm
The Feast of Tabernacles relates to a harvest. IE: suntelia seems to be a harvest.
How do you understand the sunteleia at Mt 24:3 and Mt 13:40, as a period of time or as an end (a point in time)?
by Bernd Strauss
February 8th, 2019, 7:51 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Identifying a Modern Greek Translation
Replies: 0
Views: 742

Identifying a Modern Greek Translation

What modern Greek Bible version is the following text from? It is quoted on many websites, yet I do not see a reference to the version which it is taken from. The expression “σημάδι για το δικό σου ερχομό και για τη συντέλεια του κόσμου” is peculiar to this Bible translation. “Κι ενώ καθόταν πάνω στ...
by Bernd Strauss
February 1st, 2019, 6:18 am
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: Translation of the Phrase Τυγχάνει Συντελείας
Replies: 0
Views: 785

Translation of the Phrase Τυγχάνει Συντελείας

Is the phrase “τυγχάνει συντελείας” rendered as “bring to completion” in the below text? Is the most literal rendering of the word τυγχάνω “reach; arrive at” rather than “bring to”? In the text, the word seems to be used in the active rather than passive voice. Diodorus Siculus, Library of History, ...
by Bernd Strauss
January 23rd, 2019, 7:18 am
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Translation of the Words Καταστροφή, Συντέλεια, and Κατάλυσις
Replies: 6
Views: 1304

Re: Translation of the Words Καταστροφή, Συντέλεια, and Κατάλυσις

Since the Greek text uses the phrase συντέλειαν τὴν κατάλυσιν (where the two words are linked by the article τὴν), this seems to indicate that the two words are rendered as “culminate and end” in the translation, which may mean that the translator changed the order of the renderings of the word κατα...
by Bernd Strauss
January 22nd, 2019, 4:02 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Translation of the Words Καταστροφή, Συντέλεια, and Κατάλυσις
Replies: 6
Views: 1304

Re: Translation of the Words Καταστροφή, Συντέλεια, and Κατάλυσις

I am aware that the translator has rendered Greek nouns by English verbs. One possible reason is to make the English text more readable. Or the translator simply translated the text the way he wanted. A more literal rendering would be “The particular events comprised in it have their beginning in th...
by Bernd Strauss
January 22nd, 2019, 7:39 am
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Translation of the Words Καταστροφή, Συντέλεια, and Κατάλυσις
Replies: 6
Views: 1304

Translation of the Words Καταστροφή, Συντέλεια, and Κατάλυσις

Is the word καταστροφὴν rendered as “culminate” and the word συντέλειαν as “end” in the below text, or is it vice versa? Or is the word συντέλειαν rendered as “destruction”? Polybius, Histories, book 3, chapter 1, sections 8-10: “Τὴν μὲν οὖν καθόλου τῆς ὑποθέσεως ἔμφασιν καὶ περιγραφὴν ἤδη δεδηλώκαμ...
by Bernd Strauss
January 16th, 2019, 12:23 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Finding a List of Modern Greek Bible Versions
Replies: 4
Views: 1039

Re: Finding a List of Modern Greek Bible Versions

Thank you. The five versions are apparently some of the most widely used modern Greek Bibles. I do not have a big project but simply want to see whether the words παρουσία and συντέλεια appear in modern Greek translations of the Bible, and whether modern native Greek-speaking people understand them ...

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