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by Matthew Longhorn
June 11th, 2019, 2:53 pm
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: PhD thesis - Rudolph - Reclaiming γαρ
Replies: 18
Views: 678

Re: PhD thesis - Rudolph - Reclaiming γαρ

So I am finally going through Zakowski’s thesis and am comparing against Casson’s and Rudolph’s views as I go. Zakowski references Heliodorus of Emesa in the Aethiopica and his translation doesn’t really fit for Rudolph’s view (roughly that gar signals the presence of a response to a perceived quest...
by Matthew Longhorn
June 10th, 2019, 10:45 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"
Replies: 13
Views: 461

Re: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"

Barry, are verbs like "believe" normally in the middle/passive when there is an impersonal construction? If not this makes me still wonder if we are not losing something by translating with an active
by Matthew Longhorn
June 10th, 2019, 10:09 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"
Replies: 13
Views: 461

Re: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"

How could you know what it is that you do not yet know? There's no harm in learning something this way. Hey Jonathan, I was more thinking that this should be my default position, given that I am self-taught I should probably be less confident in my assertions. Certainly not a bad thing, I learn a l...
by Matthew Longhorn
June 8th, 2019, 10:38 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"
Replies: 13
Views: 461

Re: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"

Thanks Barry, that helps. I thought you somehow saw the verbs themselves as being “impersonal verbs” - in some sort of lexical sense that I wasn’t aware of. Phrasing it as an impersonal construction definitely is clearer and is something I can see.
by Matthew Longhorn
June 7th, 2019, 4:08 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"
Replies: 13
Views: 461

Re: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"

Actually, I think the use of the impersonal verbs here puts the emphasis on the actions of believing and confessing, not so much the subjects and objects, which are easily determined from context. The question is precisely why the present is used here. In older grammatical meta-language, it appears...
by Matthew Longhorn
June 7th, 2019, 4:41 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"
Replies: 13
Views: 461

Re: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"

Change of state isn’t probably the best way to have put that, but wasn’t sure how to express it otherwise
by Matthew Longhorn
June 7th, 2019, 4:13 am
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Information structure and adjectives
Replies: 5
Views: 488

Re: Information structure and adjectives

It's hard to say more than Stephanie Bakker's The Noun Phrase in Ancient Greek . Here is the first of Mike's reviews: https://koine-greek.com/2010/10/13/review-the-noun-phrase-in-ancient-greekpart-i/ For once in my life I am trying the experiment of buying clothes and other things rather than books...
by Matthew Longhorn
June 7th, 2019, 4:08 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"
Replies: 13
Views: 461

Re: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"

Thanks for the response all. The problem is not the Greek, but the English, in which "is believed" and "is professed" imply a perfective. If we paraphrase, though, say ἄνθρωπος γὰρ καρδίᾳ πιστεύει εἰς δικαιοσύνην, στόματι δὲ ὁμολογεῖ εἰς σωτηρίαν.. "For a person believes in his heart for righteousne...
by Matthew Longhorn
June 6th, 2019, 9:33 am
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Information structure and adjectives
Replies: 5
Views: 488

Re: Information structure and adjectives

Thanks for those thoughts Jonathan, I will need to think through them a bit more. Just thought I would note that I have found Mike Aubrey’s brief comments on adjective position to be interesting and something worth throwing into the discussion here https://koine-greek.com/2008/11/08/discontinuous-sy...
by Matthew Longhorn
June 6th, 2019, 6:05 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"
Replies: 13
Views: 461

Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"

ἀλλὰ τί ⸀λέγει; ἐγγύς σου τὸ ῥῆμά ἐστιν ἐν τῷ στόματί σου καὶ ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ σου, τοῦτʼ ἔστιν τὸ ῥῆμα τῆς πίστεως ὃ κηρύσσομεν. ὅτι ἐὰν ὁμολογήσῃς ⸂ἐν τῷ στόματί σου κύριον Ἰησοῦν⸃ καὶ πιστεύσῃς ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ σου ὅτι ὁ θεὸς αὐτὸν ἤγειρεν ἐκ νεκρῶν, σωθήσῃ· καρδίᾳ γὰρ πιστεύεται εἰς δικαιοσύνην, στόματι...