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by Jean Putmans
April 7th, 2021, 12:01 am
Forum: Questions
Topic: Thanks!
Replies: 0
Views: 37

Thanks!

Thanks for the work done to restart the forum!
by Jean Putmans
December 5th, 2020, 4:25 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?
Replies: 17
Views: 478

Re: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?

Probably You are right: The way Kühner-Gerth state this, it would mean: This Greek Nominative-Clause ist translated with a Vocative (at least in German and Dutch, maybe in all German languages), because the "Germanic linguistic instinct" requires a vocative. They don't say, the Greek claus...
by Jean Putmans
December 5th, 2020, 2:10 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?
Replies: 17
Views: 478

Re: Is this a legitimate translation of Hebrews 1:8?

Dear Bill, According to Kühner-Gerth, Ausführliche Grammatik der Griechischen Sprache Part II, Vol.I, 1897, p. 46, Shirley seems to be right: In Salutations with the Article + Nominative with an attributive Apposition this Nominative is - according to German (and Dutch) habit - translated with a Voc...
by Jean Putmans
December 1st, 2020, 12:44 pm
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: Antiquities 1.30
Replies: 9
Views: 225

Re: Antiquities 1.30

as to ετετραπτο: To identify Verbforms, you might find useful: Traut, Georg: Lexikon über die Formen der griechischen Verba, 1867 Download: https://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de//de/fs1/object/display/bsb10585385_00001.html (Digitizing Centre of the München University; they have great scans of many ...
by Jean Putmans
November 2nd, 2020, 2:54 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Genitive Absolute without Subject
Replies: 8
Views: 343

Re: Genitive Absolute without Subject

Thanks again, mr. Bartholomew,

with these examples I can show, that the Gothic omission of the Subject could be pointing to a Vorlage with the omission of the Subject of the Gen.Abs. (by the way: the Gothic has a Dative Absolute).


Regards

Jean
by Jean Putmans
November 1st, 2020, 2:10 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Genitive Absolute without Subject
Replies: 8
Views: 343

Re: Genitive Absolute without Subject

Thanks mr. Bartholomew,

The Gothic Translator followed the Greek text exactly the same way in 2:42 with explicite Subj. and 2:43: Omitting the Subject!

That's great!

Regards
Jean
by Jean Putmans
November 1st, 2020, 12:15 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Genitive Absolute without Subject
Replies: 8
Views: 343

Re: Genitive Absolute without Subject

Thanks for the (as always) quick answer. The problem with comparing an end 4th century translation is, that Luke's style and habits don't matter that much, what matters is the text of the Greek „Vorlage“, that might have omitted the Subject, so causing the Gothic translator to do the same: improbabl...
by Jean Putmans
November 1st, 2020, 8:08 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Genitive Absolute without Subject
Replies: 8
Views: 343

Genitive Absolute without Subject

The Cambridge Grammar of Classical Greek 2019, § 52:32 Note 1, mentions the possibility, that in a Genitive Absolute the Subject can be omitted, if it can easily be supplied from the context. Lk 7:41 δυο χρεωφειλεται ησαν δανειστη τινι ο εισ ωφειλεν δηναρια πεντακοσια ο δε ετεροσ πεντηκοντα (7:42) μ...
by Jean Putmans
October 23rd, 2020, 1:00 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Luke 7:4 παρεξει
Replies: 3
Views: 197

Re: Luke 7:4 παρεξει

thanks,
for the answer
and the correction ... I realised this after pushing the send-button ...

regards
Jean
by Jean Putmans
October 22nd, 2020, 1:17 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Luke 7:4 παρεξει
Replies: 3
Views: 197

Luke 7:4 παρεξει

Dear Forum-Members

οι δε παραγενομενοι προσ τον ιησουν παρεκαλουν αυτον σπουδαιωσ λεγοντεσ οτι αξιοσ εστιν ω (RP:) παρεξει/ (NA:) παρεξη τουτο

Could the RP-παρεξει here be an Attical form of παρέξῃ? (See Cambridge Greek Grammar 2019, § 12.7, Note 1; or BDF §27)

Regards

Jean Putmans

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