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by Peng Huiguo
January 21st, 2020, 4:27 am
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: Parmenides IS succinct!
Replies: 0
Views: 14

Parmenides IS succinct!

ὁδοὶ µοῦναι διζήσιός εἰσι νοῆσαι
ἡ µὲν ὅπως ἔστιν τε καὶ ὡς οὐκ ἔστι µὴ εἶναι
πειθοῦς ἐστι κέλευθος···
ἡ δ΄ ὡς οὐκ ἔστιν τε καὶ ὡς χρεών ἐστι µὴ εἶναι
···παναπευθέα ἔµµεν ἀταρπόν
οὔτε γὰρ ἂν γνοίης τό γε µὴ ἐὸν···οὔτε φράσαις

Fellow liked infinitive. Reminds me of ancient chinese. Delightful.
by Peng Huiguo
January 21st, 2020, 2:28 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι
Replies: 13
Views: 257

Re: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι

Alan, Parmenides has ὁδοὶ µοῦναι διζήσιός εἰσι νοῆσαι (2.2). Not sure if it's relevant here seeing it's a different type of writing in many ways.
by Peng Huiguo
January 20th, 2020, 1:09 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι
Replies: 13
Views: 257

Re: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι

are you claiming the infinitive would somehow work better?
No I think it's a little weird and I like it.
by Peng Huiguo
January 20th, 2020, 12:32 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι
Replies: 13
Views: 257

Re: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι

I am getting ready to wreck that
:shock:
trying to figure out what is more probable
This verse is unusual after all: the fronting of that ἀξίως, the weird word choice of πολιτεύομαι. It's like the author wanted to pop it out, to trip the reader right here. A subjectless infinitive fits right in.
by Peng Huiguo
January 20th, 2020, 8:11 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι
Replies: 13
Views: 257

Re: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι

Btw Alan, ε ~ αι is the second most common interchange of vowels in the papyri do you have a tool to list all occurrences of say ε ⟷ αι in one/two/.../all manuscripts? This could allow tracing of manuscript lineage, and may help in this particular problem. One more reason not to smooth away that inf...
by Peng Huiguo
January 20th, 2020, 5:08 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι
Replies: 13
Views: 257

Re: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι

Doesn't this seem like a chiasm? ἐμοὶ γὰρ τὸ ζῆν Χριστὸς καὶ τὸ ἀποθανεῖν κέρδος ... ἵνα τὸ καύχημα ὑμῶν περισσεύῃ ἐν χριστῷ Ἰησοῦ ἐν ἐμοὶ διὰ τῆς ἐμῆς παρουσίας πάλιν πρὸς ὑμᾶς μόνον ἀξίως τοῦ εὐαγγελίου πολιτεύεσθαι (א) ἵνα εἴτε ἐλθὼν καὶ ἰδὼν ὑμᾶς εἴτε ἀπὼν ἀκούσω τὰ περὶ ὑμῶν ὅτι στήκετε ἐν ἑνὶ ...
by Peng Huiguo
January 19th, 2020, 5:56 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι
Replies: 13
Views: 257

Re: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι

Scribal dilemma in digital age. Interesting. I think you should keep πολιτεύεσθαι because It's there on the manuscripts in plain sight Lectio difficilior potior I'm not sure if it's syntactically acceptable, but I feel it's in character with vv. 21, 22 & 24. There's an implied 1st person singular or...
by Peng Huiguo
January 19th, 2020, 12:48 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Colors in Ancient Greek
Replies: 33
Views: 1672

Re: Colors in Ancient Greek

Color in ancient chinese (and in general) is a complex topic. Western commentaries haven't even scratched its surface and are often wrong about it. I won't attempt to discuss it here, but I should point out that I-Ching mentioned "sky is black and earth is yellow". That "black" and "yellow" are load...
by Peng Huiguo
January 18th, 2020, 11:02 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Galatians 4:12-14 Γίνεσθε ὡς ἐγώ
Replies: 22
Views: 9214

Re: Galatians 4:12-14 Γίνεσθε ὡς ἐγώ

I have struggled at length with the type of “temptation” that best fits the scenario There's benefit in not reading too tightly into small bits of text. There's also a limit to the range of context before it becomes tenuous. And many greek words are polysemous. It won't do to rigidly map πειρασμός ...
by Peng Huiguo
January 18th, 2020, 2:17 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Galatians 4:12-14 Γίνεσθε ὡς ἐγώ
Replies: 22
Views: 9214

Re: Galatians 4:12-14 Γίνεσθε ὡς ἐγώ

Greg, ἄγγελον and Χριστὸν Ἰησοῦν at the end of Gal. 4:14 refer to Paul, not the Galatians — just saying, because your translation seems to lean toward the latter. Also, πειρασμός can mean not really "temptation" but some fortitude-straining hardship (Luke 22:28, Acts 20:19), which I think fits bette...

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