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by Stephen Nelson
August 31st, 2019, 1:27 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Books omitted from LXX
Replies: 9
Views: 928

Re: Books omitted from LXX

The notion that "The Septuagint" is fixed entity with a certain content is called into question by the "Warden[1]" of Tyndale House Cambridge, Peter J. Williams, PhD. Why I Don't Believe In The Septuagint - Dr. Peter J. Williams, PhD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmpnJ1cgh58 This has consequences...
by Stephen Nelson
August 28th, 2019, 2:40 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Books omitted from LXX
Replies: 9
Views: 928

Re: Books omitted from LXX

They're all present in my copies of the Septuagint. Here , for example, is the text of Baruch. The whole of the Septuagint is on that site. Thanks. Yes, I do know that these books exist in most editions of the Septuagint. That requires no explanation. My question pertains to why they are absent fro...
by Stephen Nelson
August 28th, 2019, 1:36 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Books omitted from LXX
Replies: 9
Views: 928

Books omitted from LXX

Does anyone know (or have a theory for) why certain books are missing from certain editions (ancient & modern) of the Septuagint? I would expect for at least all canonical books to be included. For example this website: https://www.septuagint.bible/home# It appears to be missing Lamentation, Baruch,...
by Stephen Nelson
August 22nd, 2019, 2:15 pm
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 75
Views: 12548

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

Bringing this back to the theme of my OP - having surveyed more of the literature on this topic and having analyzed several Greek examples (below) - it seems as though the majority of non-past aorists in the bible are traditionally translated into English with either present perfect or simple presen...
by Stephen Nelson
August 18th, 2019, 9:04 pm
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 75
Views: 12548

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/25e9/2e866c60d7ad1fc1e76d08d1488bb525048b.pdf refers to his paper, likely in Russian so not much good to me but you'll be ok I'm sure. Isacˇenko, A. V.1960Grammaticˇeskij stroj russkogo jazyka v sopostavlenii s slovackim—Cˇast’vtoraja: morfologija[The Grammatical St...
by Stephen Nelson
August 17th, 2019, 6:18 pm
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 75
Views: 12548

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

Now that the proposition is clear (and here I am assuming that what Stephen Nelson and I cobbled together in the last couple of exchanges is what Campbell and others mean) it is easy to see the objections against it - though as I said I don't have the data - so your examples are helpful. your quest...
by Stephen Nelson
August 17th, 2019, 6:17 pm
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 75
Views: 12548

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

Now that the proposition is clear (and here I am assuming that what Stephen Nelson and I cobbled together in the last couple of exchanges is what Campbell and others mean) it is easy to see the objections against it - though as I said I don't have the data - so your examples are helpful. your quest...
by Stephen Nelson
August 17th, 2019, 12:28 am
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 75
Views: 12548

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

That said, this quote may slowly be getting closer to the point. If "yonder, there" are spatial (which I'm happy to accept) and that the meaning of them is carried by an augment/prefix/suffix what have you, is the concept we are trying to represent here then something like this. I'll serialize in a...
by Stephen Nelson
August 16th, 2019, 8:25 pm
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 75
Views: 12548

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

No, my question is very simple. As an example, how is "I threw the ball" spatial ? I can understand that having the thrown the ball it is now remote from me. But the action itself was at the time very close to me indeed - my arm did it while attached to the rest of me. So how is a verbal action, co...
by Stephen Nelson
August 16th, 2019, 7:00 pm
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 75
Views: 12548

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

Cross-linguistically then, the path of development is that first the particle (the syllabic augment) had a spatial meaning, then later a temporal meaning, and finally became bleached semantically and grammaticalized as a marker of past tense. By the Homeric period the spatial meaning has already en...

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