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by Jonathan Robie
September 22nd, 2017, 10:57 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Word order in Mark 8:5 Πόσους ἔχετε ἄρτους;
Replies: 2
Views: 61

Word order in Mark 8:5 Πόσους ἔχετε ἄρτους;

Mark 8:5 wrote:καὶ ἠρώτα αὐτούς· Πόσους ἔχετε ἄρτους; οἱ δὲ εἶπαν· Ἑπτά.
I'm interested in thoughts on why the word order Πόσους ἔχετε ἄρτους; as opposed to Πόσους ἄρτους ἔχετε;
by Jonathan Robie
September 21st, 2017, 4:32 pm
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Greek Grammar Book Order for Self Learning
Replies: 15
Views: 360

Re: Greek Grammar Book Order for Self Learning

I did notice that the original list was heavily, and only, "grammar translation" in approach. Yeah. NT Studies seem to ignore the advice of the language specialists. It's probably a simple Inertia Factor, but that doesn't make it acceptable or excusable. For example, the American Council for the Te...
by Jonathan Robie
September 21st, 2017, 4:30 pm
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Greek Grammar Book Order for Self Learning
Replies: 15
Views: 360

Re: Greek Grammar Book Order for Self Learning

Emma Ehrhardt wrote:
September 21st, 2017, 12:49 pm
But if your goal is to read Greek, read Greek. A balanced plate for intermediate students (in just my humble opinion) is something like 80% reading (reminder reading != translating), 15% vocab work, 5% grammar reading.
What she said.
by Jonathan Robie
September 21st, 2017, 4:27 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Numbers 21:13
Replies: 12
Views: 284

Re: Numbers 21:13

Hi Lee,

I think you're in over your head. You are going to have to learn the Greek language - including the syntax - before you are ready for this kind of speculation. You are welcome to participate in the Beginner's Forum, but according to the guidelines in my previous post.
by Jonathan Robie
September 21st, 2017, 10:06 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Greek Grammar Book Order for Self Learning
Replies: 15
Views: 360

Re: Greek Grammar Book Order for Self Learning

Would it be helpful to get a reader's version of NA28 for regular devotional reading? Absolutely, and the time you spend reading this is probably what will help you more than anything else. But you do need to learn the grammar too. I would focus on spending 30 minutes a day reading Greek, learning ...
by Jonathan Robie
September 21st, 2017, 9:37 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Numbers 21:13
Replies: 12
Views: 284

Re: Numbers 21:13

You will get more out of your work if you focus on learning Greek grammar as the key to understanding the Greek without appealing to outside sources. Best of luck to you as you continue your studies. I am more towards lexicology rather then Grammar, i can translate words but i struggle forming sent...
by Jonathan Robie
September 20th, 2017, 3:12 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Intro - Lee Magee
Replies: 3
Views: 93

Re: Intro - Lee Magee

Welcome, Lee!

If you don't mind, could I change your user name to Lee Magee? We have a user name policy that requires real names rather than nicknames.
by Jonathan Robie
September 4th, 2017, 10:57 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: ὄνομά μοι ... τὸ ὄνομά μου
Replies: 19
Views: 1267

Re: ὄνομά μοι ... τὸ ὄνομά μου

The datives are predicative functioning at the level of the clause, while the genitives function within the NP. Could someone explain Aubrey's comment to me? Did this get sufficiently explained? Or do I need to clarify it? Here's how I understood it - let me know if I got it right. I assume you are...
by Jonathan Robie
August 31st, 2017, 4:10 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: ὄνομά μοι ... τὸ ὄνομά μου
Replies: 19
Views: 1267

Re: ὄνομά μοι ... τὸ ὄνομά μου

There are probably a number of levels of context involved in this issue, rather than looking for a simple consistency to match the English, "What is your name?". In a social context, the idea of "How do others address you as?", "What name are you known by?" might be expressed by: τι ὀνομάζῃ; "What ...