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by Barry Hofstetter
January 27th, 2020, 12:03 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Morphology of ζαω
Replies: 4
Views: 120

Re: Morphology of ζαω

So what do people here think? Is the root ζαω or simply ζω? One of the fun things about Greek is that it has surprises... :lol: ζώω [v.] ‘to live’ (Il.). «IE *gweih3-, *gwieh3- ‘live’» •VAR Homer has only uncontracted forms: ζώω, ζώεις, ζώει, inf. ζωέμεν, ζώοντ-; *ζάω is a grammarians’ construction...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 25th, 2020, 6:55 am
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Athanasius Contra Gentes
Replies: 61
Views: 19406

Re: Athanasius Contra Gentes

Secondly, Ι think Newman's translation is somewhat misleading ... Not the only example of this. Jonn Henry Newman wasn't aiming at a formal equivalence translation . He knew better, It would be unreadable. He wins because he is accessible. John Behr and Khaled Anatolios are books from libraries. It...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 23rd, 2020, 1:23 pm
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: Parmenides IS succinct!
Replies: 4
Views: 140

Re: Parmenides IS succinct!

you picked a good one No it picked me, by way of Alan Bunning's latest post. "nothing unreal has existence" Right, Kirikintha's 1st law of metaphysics :lol: It applies to the star trek universe itself. Spock went out of existence at the moment he comprehended that "law". Notice how ἔστι is accented...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 22nd, 2020, 7:08 pm
Forum: Other Greek Texts
Topic: Parmenides IS succinct!
Replies: 4
Views: 140

Re: Parmenides IS succinct!

I'll say you picked a good one if you are starting out on "non-Koine" Greek! :D Not only intense philosophy, but dactylic hexameter to boot. ἡ µὲν ὅπως ἔστιν τε καὶ ὡς οὐκ ἔστι µὴ εἶναι... Notice how ἔστι is accented in both instances. The first is the existential use, the second followed by the inf...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 22nd, 2020, 12:19 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Galatians 4:12-14 Γίνεσθε ὡς ἐγώ
Replies: 25
Views: 10621

Re: Galatians 4:12-14 Γίνεσθε ὡς ἐγώ

Gregory, please try to restrict you discussions more closely to the Greek... To make a fresh start, with a focus on the Greek, here is, according to my rereading, the smallest comprehensible discourse unit: Γίνεσθε ὡς ἐγώ, ὅτι κἀγὼ ὡς ὑμεῖς, ἀδελφοί, δέομαι ὑμῶν. οὐδέν με ἠδικήσατε· οἴδατε δὲ ὅτι δ...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 22nd, 2020, 9:53 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: How was αι in Hebrew PNs like Ιεσσαι read by Koine Greek speakers in early MSS of the New Testament?
Replies: 9
Views: 334

Re: How was αι in Hebrew PNs like Ιεσσαι read by Koine Greek speakers in early MSS of the New Testament?

Just a side question, where was Palestine in 37BCE--135CE? The NT knew Ἰουδαία and Matthew knew "γη Ισραηλ" 2.20-21 and Caesar knew Gaul, but I only know "Palestine" and "France" from modern maps. The Romans called the area Syria Palaestina, a formal designation after the Bar Kochba rebellion, and ...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 20th, 2020, 3:22 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Galatians 4:12-14 Γίνεσθε ὡς ἐγώ
Replies: 25
Views: 10621

Re: Galatians 4:12-14 Γίνεσθε ὡς ἐγώ

Gregory, please try to restrict you discussions more closely to the Greek, and not stray too far into general or theological interpretation. As it is, I see this as simply hyperbole that the Galatians were ready to do anything whatever he asked, no matter what it was. The idea of the eye being somet...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 20th, 2020, 12:56 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι
Replies: 13
Views: 338

Re: πολιτεύεσθε and πολιτεύεσθαι

First of all, please cite the entire verse and any additional helpful context: Μόνον ἀξίως τοῦ εὐαγγελίου τοῦ Χριστοῦ πολιτεύεσθε, ἵνα εἴτε ἐλθὼν καὶ ἰδὼν ὑμᾶς εἴτε ἀπὼν ἀκούω τὰ περὶ ὑμῶν, ὅτι στήκετε ἐν ἑνὶ πνεύματι, μιᾷ ψυχῇ συναθλοῦντες τῇ πίστει τοῦ εὐαγγελίου... Phil 1:27 Secondly, what are yo...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 20th, 2020, 12:41 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Athanasius Contra Gentes
Replies: 61
Views: 19406

Re: Athanasius Contra Gentes

The form of ποιήσωμεν Gen 1:26 is employed by Athanasius in this sample of grammatical exegesis . § 46.5 τίνι γάρ, ἄν τις εἴποι πρὸς αὐτούς, ὡμίλει ὁ Θεός, ἵνα καὶ προστάττων λαλῇ; εἰ μὲν οὖν τοῖς γιγνομένοις προσέταττε καὶ ὡμίλει, περιττὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος· οὔπω γὰρ ἦν, ἀλλ' ἔμελλε γίγνεσθαι· οὐδεὶς δὲ ...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 17th, 2020, 1:18 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Galatians 4:12-14 Γίνεσθε ὡς ἐγώ
Replies: 25
Views: 10621

Re: Galatians 4:12-14 Γίνεσθε ὡς ἐγώ

I'm trying to be tentative, and so calling my comprehensive rereading of the grammar a hypothesis, awkwardly perhaps. I'm trying to say that I think I may have rediscovered the original grammar of Gal. 4:12-14 (which has been lost). I am encouraged in my reading of this passage in Galatians, first ...

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