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by Barry Hofstetter
August 3rd, 2020, 1:52 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Romans 1:1. Own translation. Grammar check
Replies: 9
Views: 252

Re: Romans 1:1. Own translation. Grammar check

Thank you. This helps me - to know there is no problem with the grammar, per se. I understand that the "problem" (constructive reason?) is with the usage of είς. (That "into" the gospel does not seem to make sense…) In considering the feedback above, I think the rendering of είς as “for”, is nevert...
by Barry Hofstetter
August 2nd, 2020, 10:32 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Romans 1:1. Own translation. Grammar check
Replies: 9
Views: 252

Re: Romans 1:1. Own translation. Grammar check

Thank you. (To me, “the reader” is the person reading the translation…) The phrase “separated into the gospel” may seem nonsensical. Because, the gospel is an announcement. Yet, the definition of the Greek word εἰς, per Strong’s Concordance, is " to or into (indicating the point reached or entered,...
by Barry Hofstetter
July 30th, 2020, 2:33 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Epistle to Diogenetus
Replies: 12
Views: 515

Re: Epistle to Diogenetus

... but remember that it was originally understood with τόπου, "place" and that's how I read it here, "the place where they are going to go, this they call god." Yes, I agree with that, but the original question posed wasn't one about place . The original question was a What question not a WHERE qu...
by Barry Hofstetter
July 30th, 2020, 9:46 am
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Epistle to Diogenetus
Replies: 12
Views: 515

Re: Epistle to Diogenetus

Diog. 8:2 ἢ τοὺς κενοὺς καὶ ληρώδεις ἐκείνων λόγους ἀποδέχῃ τῶν ἀξιοπίστων φιλοσόφων; ὧν οἱ μέν τινες πῦρ ἔφασαν εἶναι τὸν θεόν ( οὗ μέλλουσι χωρήσειν αὐτοί, τοῦτο καλοῦσι θεόν) οἱ δὲ ὕδωρ, οἱ δ᾿ ἄλλο τι τῶν στοιχείων τῶν ἐκτισμένων ὑπὸ θεοῦ Diog. 8:2 Or do you accept the empty and nonsensical stat...
by Barry Hofstetter
July 23rd, 2020, 1:32 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 7:35 - the 'diaspora of the Greeks'
Replies: 11
Views: 437

Re: John 7:35 - the 'diaspora of the Greeks'

Stephen, not sure what your point is here. I will say this, I don't think an objective genitive would work (I mean, exactly how is the genitive the object of the verbal idea in διασπορά?) The partitive is also suspect -- it would mean the part of the Greeks who can be called diaspora. Maybe Wallace ...
by Barry Hofstetter
July 21st, 2020, 10:55 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Evangelist and Bible translator
Replies: 6
Views: 280

Re: Evangelist and Bible translator

Welcome to B-Greek!
by Barry Hofstetter
July 21st, 2020, 10:55 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hello!
Replies: 6
Views: 232

Re: Hello!

Welcome to B-Greek!
by Barry Hofstetter
July 20th, 2020, 6:01 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Luke 1:29 Why Nominative?
Replies: 1
Views: 127

Re: Luke 1:29 Why Nominative?

ἡ δὲ ἐπὶ τῷ λόγῳ διεταράχθη καὶ διελογίζετο ποταπὸς εἴη ὁ ἀσπασμὸς οὗτος. Luke 1:29 Why is ὁ ἀσπασμὸς οὗτος in the nominative? Is it because it is an indirect quotation of Mary's thoughts? If so, is this the standard way cases are treated in indirect quotations (i.e., cases are preserved unchanged)...
by Barry Hofstetter
July 19th, 2020, 8:46 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Syntax of Matthew 19:9
Replies: 4
Views: 226

Re: Syntax of Matthew 19:9

Just by way of reminder, we discuss the Greek on B-Greek, and don't normally discuss translations, except in so far as a translation may illustrate a particular understanding of the Greek. We also generally cite the Greek text if possible: λέγω δὲ ὑμῖν ὅτι ὃς ἂν ἀπολύσῃ τὴν γυναῖκα αὐτοῦ μὴ ἐπὶ πορν...
by Barry Hofstetter
July 18th, 2020, 11:13 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Gen 4:23
Replies: 9
Views: 384

Re: Gen 4:23

All the translations you mention are based on the Hebrew. We can of course discuss what the Greek of the LXX means, and how that shows the translator's understanding of the Hebrew, but the translations and Rashi all work with the Hebrew.

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