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by RandallButh
August 6th, 2020, 2:41 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Matthew 27:46 hina clause not in subjunctive mood
Replies: 4
Views: 188

Re: Matthew 27:46 hina clause not in subjunctive mood

ἵνα τί με ἐγκατέλιπες Why is this hina clause not in subjunctive mood? The ἵνα clause has no verb. It's just ἵνα τί. You could think of it as "You abandoned me in order to what ?" if it helps you to English it differently. Exactly. Consider the 'subjunctive' to be inside the τί, as if to say "in or...
by RandallButh
June 22nd, 2020, 9:59 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Albuquerque on Mark 2:10
Replies: 9
Views: 769

Re: Albuquerque on Mark 2:10

For Matthew: the verb ἀφιέναι does not need or require extra phrases that specifies time or place or other marginal/optional information. Also, everything was already taking place "on earth," both the incident and the speech. Relevance Theory states that persons interpret explicit statements on an a...
by RandallButh
June 20th, 2020, 3:51 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Albuquerque on Mark 2:10
Replies: 9
Views: 769

Re: Albuquerque on Mark 2:10

Actually, this is not a simple read for those in the 21st century. There are several of points of background information and word order that are necessary for a good reading. First of all, ἐξουσίαν ἔχει is an idiomatic word order for the verb σχεῖν. This is practically equivalent to a verb-first cla...
by RandallButh
June 6th, 2020, 11:13 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek
Replies: 24
Views: 2337

Re: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek

The quote (οδε κιτε "here lies") does, in fact, demonstrate merged/dropped length. First, ε is short while the etymological vowel αι was long. This cannot be attributed to pre-Euclidian spelling from 500-700 years (!) earlier because E was used for long-E ("proto-eta") not AI. Secondly, once ε demo...
by RandallButh
May 31st, 2020, 10:15 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Expressing a perfect continuous idea
Replies: 6
Views: 493

Re: Expressing a perfect continuous idea

We tend to use πειρᾶσθαι πειραθῆναι for the 'attempt' notion, and προσφάτως is good for 'recently.' However, the tenses are easier in Greek because the choice of πειρᾶσθαι is also conditioned by its hinted outcome. If the attempt was unsuccessful or on going then an imperfect or a continuous partici...
by RandallButh
May 27th, 2020, 3:33 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek
Replies: 24
Views: 2337

Re: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek

FTR: Koine pronunciation recommends unaspirated π, τ, κ, and fricative φ, θ, χ, as well as voiced fricative β, δ, γ. PS: If you use them for a few hundred hours you will begin to hear them. The result is not always pleasant. In Hebrew it bothers me sometimes to hear חית pronounced as a fricative כית...
by RandallButh
May 24th, 2020, 5:15 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek
Replies: 24
Views: 2337

Re: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek

Rather, our goal is to prescribe a standard which is not necessarily a-historical, but also achieves other pedagogical goals I assume that you have read the discussion on goals and criteria for pronunciation choice in the PDF at www.biblicallanguagecenter.com ? https://www.biblicallanguagecenter.co...
by RandallButh
May 24th, 2020, 2:27 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek
Replies: 24
Views: 2337

Re: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek

FWIW: Here is a transcription of the inscription. Spelling is preserved, punctuation and numbering has been added. Photos are available on line. 1 Διάταγμα Καίσαρος ἀρέσκει μοι τάφους τύνβους τε, οἵτινες εἰς θρησκείαν προγόνων ἐποίησαν ἢ τέκνων ἢ οἰκείων, 5 τούτους μένειν ἀμετακεινήτους τὸν αἰῶνα. ἐ...
by RandallButh
May 23rd, 2020, 7:22 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek
Replies: 24
Views: 2337

Re: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek

I think we can all acknowledge that Ancient Greek was no more monolithic than Modern Greek with respect to dialects and accents. At the end of the day, we're forced to restrict our examination to a small sample of texts produced by a small minority of literate people. The focus needs to be on phone...
by RandallButh
May 23rd, 2020, 12:07 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek
Replies: 24
Views: 2337

Re: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek

You have shown highly compelling pieces of evidence for the losing of phonemic vowel length during the Koine Period, but οδε κιτε for ωδε κειται doesn't happen to be one of them, first because ι could be short or long, such as ἀποκρί̄νεται vs ἀπόκρισις, and also because the spelling of ο for ω, jus...

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