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by Stirling Bartholomew
June 26th, 2013, 2:48 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Indirect statements using participles
Replies: 5
Views: 17167

Re: Indirect statements using participles

For some time now I have been wondering why grammarians bother to talk about indirect discourse , It seems to be a very fuzzy category and I don't see how it is used other than to distinguish direct speech from other forms of reporting cognitive actions like seeing, knowing, observing. If the categ...
by Stirling Bartholomew
June 26th, 2013, 12:44 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Indirect statements using participles
Replies: 5
Views: 17167

Re: Indirect statements using participles

I looked over each of these and some of them are syntactically complex. I omitted Luke 10:18 εἶπεν δὲ αὐτοῖς· ἐθεώρουν τὸν σατανᾶν ὡς ἀστραπὴν ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ πεσόντα. For some time now I have been wondering why grammarians bother to talk about indirect discourse , It seems to be a very fuzzy categor...
by Stirling Bartholomew
June 25th, 2013, 8:02 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Indirect statements using participles
Replies: 5
Views: 17167

Re: Indirect statements using participles

I'm looking for examples in the GNT of indirect statements which use a participle for the verb in the indirect statement. - can anyone help with a list of good examples please? Failing the GNT the LXX would do. Thanks Shirley Rollinson ATR discusses this in several places, pages 864, 1040-42, 1122-...
by Stirling Bartholomew
June 13th, 2013, 4:01 pm
Forum: Resources
Topic: Best Intermediate Greek Syntax
Replies: 16
Views: 9424

Re: Best Intermediate Greek Syntax

I can postpone a final decision on approach* until the end of the summer, but the textbook order deadline for the third semester Greek Syntax course I will be teaching this fall is approaching soon. Here are some options: Are there other better alternatives? I'd like something that is clear, access...
by Stirling Bartholomew
June 11th, 2013, 7:16 pm
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Best Practices for Second Year Greek
Replies: 11
Views: 4627

Re: Best Practices for Second Year Greek

Stirling, you wrote: Would you mind sharing a few of these parts that need to be "unlearned"? What about the basic assumption about meaning and texts. What If we call into question the assumption that meaning is encoded in a text according to established rules and the task of exegesis entails rule ...
by Stirling Bartholomew
June 11th, 2013, 5:25 pm
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Best Practices for Second Year Greek
Replies: 11
Views: 4627

Re: Best Practices for Second Year Greek

Stirling, you wrote: If you do that then you could omit GGBB from the curriculum. There is a lot in GGBB which will need to be unlearned at some point, better to just not to learn it in the first place. Would you mind sharing a few of these parts that need to be "unlearned"? I've already seen discu...
by Stirling Bartholomew
June 10th, 2013, 4:54 pm
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Best Practices for Second Year Greek
Replies: 11
Views: 4627

Re: Best Practices for Second Year Greek

I am also toying with the idea of pushing syntax completely into the background. Instead of structuring the course around syntax, one could structure the course entirely around (lots of) reading, and deal with syntactical issues as they arise. If you do that then you could omit GGBB from the curric...
by Stirling Bartholomew
June 8th, 2013, 8:31 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Poll: what have you read in Greek?
Replies: 7
Views: 5507

Re: Poll: what have you read in Greek?

This is an old thread. Read everything in NT many times but not too fond of Acts. Mostly read outside NT now days, Attic Tragedy and occasional dabbling in Thucydides.
by Stirling Bartholomew
June 6th, 2013, 4:10 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Severian on 1 Corinthians 11:3
Replies: 7
Views: 3075

Re: Severian on 1 Corinthians 11:3

the text again: {761 Kor 11,3}76 (9t) Προτρεπόμενος μᾶλλον ἢ ἀποδεχόμενος λέγει, ἵνα ἑξῆς τὴν (10) παραίνεσιν βεβαιώσῃ ἐν αὐτοῖς· θέλω δὲ ὑμᾶς εἰδέναι ὅτι παντὸς ἀνδρὸς ἡ κεφαλὴ ὁ Χριστός ἐστιν, κεφαλὴ δὲ γυναικὸς ὁ ἀνήρ, κεφαλὴ δὲ Χριστοῦ ὁ θεός. Εἰ ἀσεβῶς ἐκλαμβάνοι τις, κατὰ τὸν τῆς θεότητος λόγο...
by Stirling Bartholomew
June 4th, 2013, 7:12 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Severian on 1 Corinthians 11:3
Replies: 7
Views: 3075

Re: Severian on 1 Corinthians 11:3

second thoughts: I suspect that ὁ λόγος in οὐ γὰρ περὶ τοῦ γεγενῆσθαινῦν ὁ λόγος is probably coreferential with λόγον in Εἰ ἀσεβῶς ἐκλαμβάνοι τις, κατὰ τὸν τῆς θεότητος λόγον. οὐ διὰ τὴν τῆς φύσεως ἀλλοτρίωσιν "not because they were different in nature" probably an observation on Christology which i...

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