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by R. Perkins
April 26th, 2016, 3:30 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?
Replies: 24
Views: 4101

Re: Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?

My own take on the passage about which you ask is that the participle ὑπάρχων refers to the status of the subject at the time of the conclusion drawn as referred to in ἡγήσατο is that you are interpreting it rightly: he was formally divine at the time that he judged as he judged. I think you got it...
by R. Perkins
April 21st, 2016, 11:29 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?
Replies: 24
Views: 4101

Re: Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?

Even in the indicative, there is not such a correspondence between the Greek aorist indicative and the English simple past tense, to make an assumption like that. The aorist form ἡγήσατο has to be interpreted in the situation that it is used in. The use of the aorist may be saying "past time ... [r...
by R. Perkins
April 21st, 2016, 11:17 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?
Replies: 24
Views: 4101

Re: Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?

As a grammatical category, tense only exists in the indicative. If my understanding here is correct, the participle ὑπάρχων would derive it's "time-ness" from the aorist ἡγήσατο, indicating simple past time (i.e., to the writing of Paul's letter to the Philippians). Even in the indicative, there is...
by R. Perkins
April 21st, 2016, 10:53 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?
Replies: 24
Views: 4101

Re: Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?

It's not quite clear what the question here is; it looks like you've answered it yourself; it's sort of like you want us to check over your homework assignment before you hand it in. It will very likely be accepted. :) My apologies. No homework assignment (not currently taking classes) - was just w...
by R. Perkins
April 21st, 2016, 10:36 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?
Replies: 24
Views: 4101

Re: Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?

What throws me off is, if the participles do not posses inherent "time-ness" then why do they even possess tense (as in the participle charts)? That is, if the participle receives its time of action externally - why does it have tense? The labels of participles as "present" and "aorist" don't expre...
by R. Perkins
April 21st, 2016, 2:47 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?
Replies: 24
Views: 4101

Re: Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?

It's not quite clear what the question here is; it looks like you've answered it yourself; it's sort of like you want us to check over your homework assignment before you hand it in. It will very likely be accepted. :) My apologies. No homework assignment (not currently taking classes) - was just w...
by R. Perkins
April 20th, 2016, 2:12 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?
Replies: 24
Views: 4101

Present Participial ὑπάρχων of Phil. 2.6?

(Phil. 2.6; NA28): ὃς ἐν μορφῇ θεοῦ ὑπάρχων οὐχ ἁρπαγμὸν ἡγήσατο τὸ εἶναι ἴσα θεῷ, It's my understanding that this present participle receives it's "time-ness" from that of the main verb. That is, participles are kind of like someone who never wears a watch & is always asking others "What time is it...
by R. Perkins
September 17th, 2015, 11:12 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Romans 16.7 - "Natural Gender" and "Arbitrary Gender"?
Replies: 22
Views: 5261

Re: Romans 16.7 - "Natural Gender" and "Arbitrary Gender"?

Thank you Shirley, Stephen, etc. One final question before signing off this thread (don't mean to belabor the point): Some one who has had very little Greek training recently stated (& I quote): "Greek, as with many languages, uses masculine nouns to refer to classes or groups of people that consist...
by R. Perkins
September 17th, 2015, 4:15 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Romans 16.7 - "Natural Gender" and "Arbitrary Gender"?
Replies: 22
Views: 5261

Re: Romans 16.7 - "Natural Gender" and "Arbitrary Gender"?

Interestingly, the adjective ἐπίσημος in Rom. 16.7 is nominative-masculine-plural (which, of course , is apparent). Slow down for a moment. To make sense of things, some conclusions do need to drawn from the evidence at hand, but it is better to shuffle to them, rather than jump. Appearances are no...
by R. Perkins
September 15th, 2015, 5:54 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Romans 16.7 - "Natural Gender" and "Arbitrary Gender"?
Replies: 22
Views: 5261

Re: Romans 16.7 - "Natural Gender" and "Arbitrary Gender"?

Well, I finally passed Greek I with an overall grade of 95%. And, it's been several weeks since I've looked at the text books so I'm finding out really fast that "if you don't use it, you lose it :oops: ." Question (I hope this is the place to ask this?): While discussing "aner" and "gune" my proff...

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