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by Thomas Dolhanty
February 20th, 2016, 10:32 am
Forum: Other
Topic: H(ow h)as Greek ever actually helped you?
Replies: 9
Views: 2729

Re: H(ow h)as Greek ever actually helped you?

This has moved me, many times: To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow, Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts ...
by Thomas Dolhanty
February 14th, 2016, 10:43 am
Forum: Grammars
Topic: Going Deeper with New Testament Greek, Köstenberger, et al.
Replies: 20
Views: 16378

Re: Going Deeper with New Testament Greek, Köstenberger, et

One of the things we have noted in our graduates who have gone on to a number of different seminaries is that, though they might not have mastered all of Daniel Wallace's categories, they can read Greek. That's my 2 cents worth. Now I will slide back into my hole of obscurity. I read this forum eve...
by Thomas Dolhanty
February 13th, 2016, 2:03 pm
Forum: Learning Paradigms
Topic: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)
Replies: 22
Views: 15330

Re: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)

It also needs to be understood that this accounting for these infinitives depends upon what happened in Greek linguistic history centuries before the Hellenistic Koine era; they're sort of like explanations of why we pronounce English "enough" as if it were spelled "ee-nuff" and why we pronounce En...
by Thomas Dolhanty
February 13th, 2016, 11:20 am
Forum: Learning Paradigms
Topic: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)
Replies: 22
Views: 15330

Re: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)

As a now-long-retired teacher of Greek, I'm of two minds about this claim that it is "important to remember" these factors; I'm now inclined to think that these are matters of interest and value only to antiquarians of the language and that new learners should simply learn the paradigms as they are...
by Thomas Dolhanty
February 13th, 2016, 1:18 am
Forum: Learning Paradigms
Topic: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)
Replies: 22
Views: 15330

Re: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)

Thomas Dolhanty wrote:The Mounce reference in my post above should be: BBG, 3rd Edition, Ch. 16, pg. 133, note 9.
by Thomas Dolhanty
February 12th, 2016, 7:54 pm
Forum: Learning Paradigms
Topic: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)
Replies: 22
Views: 15330

Re: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)

I'm glad that you do want to pursue this further; the facts are indeed more complicated. Yes, the infinitive ending involved in these present infinitives is -εν (Smyth would not mislead you!). However, we're not dealing with -μι verbs here (they take -ναι as an infinitive ending), but rather with t...
by Thomas Dolhanty
February 10th, 2016, 5:37 pm
Forum: Learning Paradigms
Topic: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)
Replies: 22
Views: 15330

Re: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)

... That's one reason why many of us have been voicing a preference for the present infinitive as the lexical form for verbs; the forms ποιεῖν, δηλοῦν, τιμᾶν clearly indicate that these are contract verbs with stems in -ε-ειν, -ο-ειν, -α-ειν, respectively. -ε-ειν, -ο-ουν, -α-αν respectively I'm not...
by Thomas Dolhanty
February 10th, 2016, 2:22 pm
Forum: Learning Paradigms
Topic: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)
Replies: 22
Views: 15330

Re: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)

... That's one reason why many of us have been voicing a preference for the present infinitive as the lexical form for verbs; the forms ποιεῖν, δηλοῦν, τιμᾶν clearly indicate that these are contract verbs with stems in -ε-ειν, -ο-ειν, -α-ειν, respectively. -ε-ειν, -ο-ουν, -α-αν respectively I'm not...
by Thomas Dolhanty
February 10th, 2016, 1:38 pm
Forum: Learning Paradigms
Topic: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)
Replies: 22
Views: 15330

Re: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)

Jonathan Robie wrote:
Barry Hofstetter wrote:However it's done, it's helpful to make the distinction, and helps people to distinguish between shouting and becoming a cow. :lol:
I think the English idiom "she had a cow" is probably based on a mistranslation from the Greek.
Or at least we all fervently hope that to be the case!
by Thomas Dolhanty
February 10th, 2016, 12:41 pm
Forum: Learning Paradigms
Topic: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)
Replies: 22
Views: 15330

Re: Question about contract verbs (first principal part)

cwconrad wrote: ... That's one reason why many of us have been voicing a preference for the present infinitive as the lexical form for verbs; the forms ποιεῖν, δηλοῦν, τιμᾶν clearly indicate that these are contract verbs with stems in -ε-ειν, -ο-ειν, -α-ειν, respectively.
-ε-ειν, -ο-ουν, -α-αν respectively

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