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by Thomas Dolhanty
December 15th, 2014, 10:20 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Happy to be here!
Replies: 4
Views: 1212

Re: Happy to be here!

Welcome to B-Greek. I also am new here, and it sounds like you took up Greek at about the same time in life as I did. Great to hear that you are already doing some reading in the Gospels and elsewhere. My own experience is READ, READ, READ, and I have already gleaned the same advice from others here...
by Thomas Dolhanty
December 14th, 2014, 10:47 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...
Replies: 16
Views: 2305

Re: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...

Yes, except that in Rev. 1:4 one expects a genitive after ἀπὸ rather than a nominative. The idea, though, with the reference to Ex. 3:14, as Beale suggests, is that "the full, threefold phrase may have become a general title for God in Judaism." (pg 188). If that's correct, then perhaps th...
by Thomas Dolhanty
December 14th, 2014, 10:05 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...
Replies: 16
Views: 2305

Re: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...

What about the suggestion by David Aune (WBC, V1, pg 30), Beale (NIGTC, pg 188) et al that "the incorrect' grammar is intentional" to match that of the LXX version of Exodus 3:14? LXX renders אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה אֲשֶׁ֣ר אֶֽהְיֶ֑ה as ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ ὤν. Aune discusses at some length the fact that ὁ ὤν had...
by Thomas Dolhanty
December 14th, 2014, 7:56 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...
Replies: 16
Views: 2305

Re: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...

I take all your points, and stand corrected on: I do not see inconsistencies within the Greek or Hebrew, and I could explain quite readily (I think) the grammar . I am comfortable with the "Greek" portion of that statement, but the "Hebrew" part was hasty. It all became so clear ...
by Thomas Dolhanty
December 14th, 2014, 5:54 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...
Replies: 16
Views: 2305

Re: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...

A bit off-topic for B-Greek, but isn't נִּמְצְאוּ a perfect rather than a participle?
Indeed it is. Thank you. There aren't many 3rd person participles in Hebrew, are there?
by Thomas Dolhanty
December 13th, 2014, 5:46 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...
Replies: 16
Views: 2305

Re: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...

Great. So explain the examples just quoted. Remember, this post was a request for assistance concerning MY understanding – or rather lack thereof – concerning the person of the relative pronoun. First then, from MY understanding of ὁ ὢν καὶ ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος. The article stands before a finite v...
by Thomas Dolhanty
December 13th, 2014, 4:01 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...
Replies: 16
Views: 2305

Re: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...

So what about ὁ ὢν καὶ ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος? English doesn't do "the being one and the came one and the coming one". So 1Chr29:17 ‏וְעַתָּ֗ה עַמְּךָ֙ הַנִּמְצְאוּ־פֹ֔ה רָאִ֥יתִי בְשִׂמְחָ֖ה לְהִֽתְנַדֶּב־לָֽך "the found-here ones", and על ההכין האלהים instead of על [מה] אשר הכין...
by Thomas Dolhanty
December 12th, 2014, 4:48 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Χαίρετε!
Replies: 3
Views: 1066

Re: Χαίρετε!

.... requires us to slow down and to tread carefully. That, in and of itself, is a plus that we wouldn't get from reading easily and naively in English. Another thing is the frequency of questions that are raised by reading Greek - the more you (think you) know, the more you (realise you) don't. 80...
by Thomas Dolhanty
December 11th, 2014, 10:01 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Χαίρετε!
Replies: 3
Views: 1066

Χαίρετε!

Χαίρετε, My name is Thomas Dolhanty. I’ve been doing Koine Greek for about 7 years, and Biblical Hebrew for about 6. In 2004 I took an early retirement from my work as a senior university administrator, and my wife and I moved to a small town on the west coast of Canada where we planned to set aside...
by Thomas Dolhanty
December 7th, 2014, 5:59 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...
Replies: 16
Views: 2305

Re: John 8:40 ... ὃς τὴν ἀλήθειαν ὑμῖν λελάληκα ...

Thank you Stephen & Jonathan. I knew that I had encountered the relative pronoun with other-than-third-person verbs in my reading, but I was having a difficult time explaining the grammar to the student. I was not confident enough of the reason for the supposed mismatch to answer this bright fir...

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