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by Matthew Longhorn
January 1st, 2020, 1:21 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: 1 Clement 20:5 - ἀβύσσων τε ἀνεξιχνίαστα καὶ νερτέρων ἀνεκδιήγητα κρίματα
Replies: 9
Views: 743

Re: 1 Clement 20:5 - ἀβύσσων τε ἀνεξιχνίαστα καὶ νερτέρων ἀνεκδιήγητα κρίματα

Thanks both for the feedback The preceding verses are similarly elliptical and play off a clearly demarcated duality in the first part of the sentence with a unity in the second part. The way you bundled up the substantives would break this rhythm. I didn't think about that. I was getting too caught...
by Matthew Longhorn
December 31st, 2019, 7:02 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: 1 Clement 20:5 - ἀβύσσων τε ἀνεξιχνίαστα καὶ νερτέρων ἀνεκδιήγητα κρίματα
Replies: 9
Views: 743

1 Clement 20:5 - ἀβύσσων τε ἀνεξιχνίαστα καὶ νερτέρων ἀνεκδιήγητα κρίματα

Sorry all, another query on 1 Clement. ἀβύσσων τε ἀνεξιχνίαστα καὶ νερτέρων ἀνεκδιήγητα κρίματα τοῖς αὐτοῖς συνέχεται προστάγμασιν. The way that I read this is that ἀβύσσων τε καὶ νερτέρων is to be taken as a unit modified by ἀνεξιχνίαστα καὶ ἀνεκδιήγητα κρίματα with an elipsis of the article. In th...
by Matthew Longhorn
December 28th, 2019, 10:00 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: τὰ χείλη ἡμῶν παρ᾿ ἡμῖν ἐστίν
Replies: 4
Views: 316

Re: τὰ χείλη ἡμῶν παρ᾿ ἡμῖν ἐστίν

Thanks Barry. I looked through BDAG and those entries still didn't make the usage very clear for me. Sometimes I find the BDAG entries too extensive and need things broken down into smaller/simpler info. The notion of close association with the dative is the best fit I found, but still seemed odd. h...
by Matthew Longhorn
December 28th, 2019, 9:54 am
Forum: Grammars
Topic: Siebenthal - Ancient Greek Grammar
Replies: 23
Views: 2504

Re: Siebenthal - Ancient Greek Grammar

So far, I haven't persuaded myself to pay for BDAG in electronic form, since I have the hardbound book BDAG in olivetree is great as that is where I primarily do my NT reading. Just being able to click a word and get the lexical information is massively helpful. I also have a copy in Accordance - I...
by Matthew Longhorn
December 28th, 2019, 5:31 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: τὰ χείλη ἡμῶν παρ᾿ ἡμῖν ἐστίν
Replies: 4
Views: 316

Re: τὰ χείλη ἡμῶν παρ᾿ ἡμῖν ἐστίν

Thanks Timothy, I didn't think to check the source text. Really need to do better digging in the future. So, the LXX has para + gen while clement uses the dative. Unfortunately, now I am puzzled regarding both of these ἐξολεθρεύσαι κύριος πάντα τὰ χείλη τὰ δόλια † † καὶ γλῶσσαν μεγαλορήμονα † 5 τοὺς...
by Matthew Longhorn
December 28th, 2019, 4:15 am
Forum: Grammars
Topic: Siebenthal - Ancient Greek Grammar
Replies: 23
Views: 2504

Re: Siebenthal - Ancient Greek Grammar

Not into buying books. Still got some left but most have been given away. I am going the other way at the moment. Just moved to a new place and there is a lot more room - having a paper copy to hand is sometimes nicer than electronic. That said, for proper study the electronic versions are massivel...
by Matthew Longhorn
December 28th, 2019, 4:13 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: τὰ χείλη ἡμῶν παρ᾿ ἡμῖν ἐστίν
Replies: 4
Views: 316

τὰ χείλη ἡμῶν παρ᾿ ἡμῖν ἐστίν

Hi all, I am reading through 1 Clement at the moment and hit 15:5 and am puzzled by the use of παρά here. I know that the dative can be used for possession, with the focus being on the object, but I can't seem to find a reference to a possessive nuance of the preposition here. I have checked the lex...
by Matthew Longhorn
December 15th, 2019, 9:24 am
Forum: Books
Topic: New book on the perfect tense - Soon Ki Hong
Replies: 2
Views: 287

Re: New book on the perfect tense - Soon Ki Hong

Thanks Stephen - I should have thought to post that rather than make people go hunting Here is the review blurb as well In this technical yet practically-minded study of the Greek perfect, Soon Ki Hong seeks to clear up the confusion over verbal aspect in Biblical Greek for those training in exegesi...
by Matthew Longhorn
December 15th, 2019, 6:22 am
Forum: Books
Topic: New book on the perfect tense - Soon Ki Hong
Replies: 2
Views: 287

New book on the perfect tense - Soon Ki Hong

I am spending some time going back over books and articles on Verbal aspect at the moment and the following came up in a search. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Greek-Perfect-Gospel-Epistle-Romans/dp/1433170701/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=soon+ki+hong&qid=1576405104&sr=8-1 I have pre-ordered, figured others ma...
by Matthew Longhorn
December 10th, 2019, 9:44 am
Forum: Grammars
Topic: Cambridge Grammar of Classical Greek
Replies: 4
Views: 8115

Re: Cambridge Grammar of Classical Greek

I almost posted as a separate topic to ensure people had more of a chance to see it, but I have come across a list of additions and corrections for this grammar

https://www.academia.edu/38925022/Corre ... tober_2019_

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