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by PhillipLebsack
February 2nd, 2018, 6:54 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: John 2:16 καὶ τοῖς τὰς περιστερὰς πωλοῦσιν εἶπεν·
Replies: 9
Views: 2195

Re: John 2:16 καὶ τοῖς τὰς περιστερὰς πωλοῦσιν εἶπεν·

A good start would be to read the Steven Runge's Discourse Grammar of the Greek New Testament . Part 3, chapters 9-14 can take you 90% of the way in terms of how word order works in Greek. I've started reading Runge's book and I have to say, this is one of the best recommendations i've gotten. So f...
by PhillipLebsack
February 2nd, 2018, 5:49 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: John 3:2 Ῥαββί (רַבִּי) and διδάσκαλος
Replies: 9
Views: 2470

Re: John 3:2 Ῥαββί (רַבִּי) and διδάσκαλος

We still use the title Rabbi when we speak English, that doesn't mean that every English text that uses that word was translated from Hebrew. They also use the same title in German, French, Russian, Hungarian ... In this passage, Ῥαββί is a normal form of address for a Jewish teacher, but ἀπὸ θεοῦ ...
by PhillipLebsack
February 2nd, 2018, 5:43 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: John 2:16 καὶ τοῖς τὰς περιστερὰς πωλοῦσιν εἶπεν·
Replies: 9
Views: 2195

Re: John 2:16 καὶ τοῖς τὰς περιστερὰς πωλοῦσιν εἶπεν·

What exactly are the different nuances? In context, τοῖς τὰς περιστερὰς πωλοῦσιν is preferred because in 2:14 John has introduced a list βόας καὶ πρόβατα καὶ περιστερὰς καὶ τοὺς κερματιστὰς καθημένους, in 2:15 he deals with all of them except for the doves, to which he turns in 2:16. Fronting somet...
by PhillipLebsack
February 1st, 2018, 6:28 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: John 2:16 καὶ τοῖς τὰς περιστερὰς πωλοῦσιν εἶπεν·
Replies: 9
Views: 2195

Re: John 2:16 καὶ τοῖς τὰς περιστερὰς πωλοῦσιν εἶπεν·

It's number 1. The πωλοῦσιν is the dative participle in this case. Hello. Thanks for your reply Jason. So τοῖς goes with πωλοῦσιν because they are of the same case number and gender, and the noun sandwich construction is just something that is possible in the language? It's because participles func...
by PhillipLebsack
February 1st, 2018, 6:15 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: John 2:22 Jesus said the word, or the word and the writing?
Replies: 5
Views: 1545

Re: John 2:22 Jesus said the word, or the word and the writing?

Thank you for your responses.

I'm wondering though is there any way to tell objectively where to draw the line for dependent clauses?
by PhillipLebsack
February 1st, 2018, 5:54 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: John 3:2 Ῥαββί (רַבִּי) and διδάσκαλος
Replies: 9
Views: 2470

John 3:2 Ῥαββί (רַבִּי) and διδάσκαλος

John 3:2 οὗτος ἦλθεν πρὸς αὐτὸν νυκτὸς καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ· Ῥαββί, οἴδαμεν ὅτι ἀπὸ θεοῦ ἐλήλυθας διδάσκαλος· οὐδεὶς γὰρ ⸂δύναται ταῦτα τὰ σημεῖα⸃ ποιεῖν ἃ σὺ ποιεῖς, ἐὰν μὴ ᾖ ὁ θεὸς μετ’ αὐτοῦ. I'm kind of perplexed. Ῥαββί is just the transliterated form of the Hebrew רַבִּי, which means διδάσκαλος. This...
by PhillipLebsack
January 31st, 2018, 11:23 am
Forum: Vocabulary
Topic: κερματιστής vs κολλυβιστής
Replies: 4
Views: 2252

Re: κερματιστής vs κολλυβιστής

Jonathan Robie wrote:
January 31st, 2018, 11:03 am
Yes, and also a very useful commentary on the Revelation. He wrote a lot.
What a Swete commentary! :lol:

:geek:
by PhillipLebsack
January 31st, 2018, 11:17 am
Forum: Vocabulary
Topic: ἄρτι vs νῦν
Replies: 14
Views: 5272

Re: ἄρτι vs νῦν

But why would there be two different words that mean exactly the same thing? Surely there is a slightly different meaning? Why wouldn't an author just use one of them as opposed to using them in different places in the same book to describe things? I can only say that this happens in Hebrew, where ...
by PhillipLebsack
January 31st, 2018, 11:14 am
Forum: Vocabulary
Topic: ἄρτι vs νῦν
Replies: 14
Views: 5272

Re: ἄρτι vs νῦν

I'm not sure that they are exactly interchangeable, but I don't know if they are different, and if they are, I don't know exactly what the difference is. There was a thread on this here: https://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=661 It's easy to do a quick search, but analyzing resu...
by PhillipLebsack
January 31st, 2018, 10:59 am
Forum: Vocabulary
Topic: Translation of: γεγραμμένον
Replies: 2
Views: 2048

Re: Translation of: γεγραμμένον

γεγραμμένον --> Verb: Perfect Passive Participle Nominative Singular Neuter Hi. I have a couple of questions about γεγραμμένον. How can γεγραμμένον best be translated to fully incorporate its meaning, and how can it be explained to fully understand its significance as a perfect passive participle? ...

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