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by Jonathan Robie
July 4th, 2020, 11:36 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Mark 2:3 - could missing antecedent be intentional?
Replies: 14
Views: 1039

Re: Mark 2:3 - could missing antecedent be intentional?

The participial phrase doesn't need an antecedent, and besides it is introducing a new set of characters, namely, the four carrying the paralytic. Well, exactly. I'm looking at how new characters are introduced using verbs that have no explicit subject. And there are actually several instances of t...
by Jonathan Robie
July 1st, 2020, 10:32 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Mark 2:3 - could missing antecedent be intentional?
Replies: 14
Views: 1039

Re: Mark 2:3 - could missing antecedent be intentional?

Stephen Carlson wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 12:52 am
This is usually thought of as an impersonal use of the third-person plural. You're right that it is not anaphoric. It seems to be a feature of Mark's style.
Is there a good write-up somewhere?
by Jonathan Robie
July 1st, 2020, 7:55 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Mark 2:3 - could missing antecedent be intentional?
Replies: 14
Views: 1039

Re: Mark 2:3 - could missing antecedent be intentional?

καὶ ἔρχονται φέροντες πρὸς αὐτὸν παραλυτικὸν αἰρόμενον ὑπὸ τεσσάρων. The lack of an antecedent here is striking, especially when the people introduced with this verb are so important to the following dialog. Could this be intentional? If so, what do you think the purpose is? The syntax is... odd. H...
by Jonathan Robie
June 30th, 2020, 4:11 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Mark 2:3 - could missing antecedent be intentional?
Replies: 14
Views: 1039

Mark 2:3 - could missing antecedent be intentional?

Mark 2:3 wrote:καὶ ἔρχονται φέροντες πρὸς αὐτὸν παραλυτικὸν αἰρόμενον ὑπὸ τεσσάρων.
The lack of an antecedent here is striking, especially when the people introduced with this verb are so important to the following dialog. Could this be intentional? If so, what do you think the purpose is?
by Jonathan Robie
June 23rd, 2020, 1:53 pm
Forum: Cool Stuff
Topic: main text of the NA28 in PDF?
Replies: 2
Views: 538

Re: main text of the NA28 in PDF?

And if you need a freely licensed text, they exist too. What do you want to do with the text?
by Jonathan Robie
June 14th, 2020, 7:21 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hi to all.
Replies: 4
Views: 597

Re: Hi to all.

This is the policy on names - we need a full name that identifies you, not just a first name. When you follow these steps, we will delete this post and approve further posts. Your user name, signature, and profile should clearly identify you. We do not allow anonymous membership on B-Greek, and we d...
by Jonathan Robie
June 11th, 2020, 7:49 am
Forum: Greek Texts
Topic: συνεχύθη in Acts 2.6
Replies: 29
Views: 1858

Re: συνεχύθη in Acts 2.6

Fascinating how many of these conceptual metaphors work across languages. Of course, many don't. If you've read Lakoff and Langacker and that gang, then I'm probably not telling you anything that you don't already know, but there is a reason why (some) metaphors work across languages, and that has ...
by Jonathan Robie
June 10th, 2020, 9:34 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: ἐν (τῷ) κόσμῳ
Replies: 20
Views: 1419

Re: ἐν (τῷ) κόσμῳ

I'd like to see a dissertation one of these days that examined definiteness in PP's at some point. Same here. I suspect that if we get the usage of the article right, it should basically fall into place, except for a set of more or less fixed adverbial expressions (an exception recognized by Bakker...
by Jonathan Robie
June 9th, 2020, 10:00 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Translation of non-genitive / genitive Proper names
Replies: 5
Views: 417

Re: Translation of non-genitive / genitive Proper names

I would agree, in that specific context, but of course the topic is kids and their parents, so yes that would be the go to. In the gospels they are just naming names with zero context, so it’s not really apples to apples. I ask for examples because I have seen a lot of these constructions in secula...
by Jonathan Robie
June 9th, 2020, 6:09 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Translation of non-genitive / genitive Proper names
Replies: 5
Views: 417

Re: Translation of non-genitive / genitive Proper names

If I heard Jonathan's Kathy, I would think wife or daughter. But probably wife. I wouldn’t think mother. Even if I knew Jonathan had a mother named Kathy I would still wonder if he got a new girl friend or had a baby. Well, I used to work in a daycare center. Most of the adults who came to pick up ...

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