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by Barry Hofstetter
May 17th, 2020, 12:13 pm
Forum: Greek Texts
Topic: Translation of Phil. 3.16
Replies: 14
Views: 848

Re: Translation of Phil. 3.16

The solutions so far are plausible, but I think with a bit more implications, and the normal way of treating infinitives grants a sentence that is to understood in context and I would put Phil 3.16 in the same syntactical and semantical category as these other instances, no need to open another new...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 17th, 2020, 6:52 am
Forum: Other
Topic: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?
Replies: 33
Views: 1769

Re: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?

Thank you for posting that Perry. Should I understand from that that since the subject in the previous Claus is Satan, the subject and the claws under consideration now is non-optional and explains why it is explicit? 1) To answer your question seriously, yes, that's one reason to make the subject ...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 15th, 2020, 7:22 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?
Replies: 33
Views: 1769

Re: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?

All subjects of infinitives in Greek are always accusatives and that's the normal way of things. 405. The nominative with the infinitive. Classical Greek has only a few exceptions to the rule that the subject of the infinitive, if it is identical with the subject of the governing verb, is not expre...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 15th, 2020, 6:45 pm
Forum: Greek Texts
Topic: Translation of Phil. 3.16
Replies: 14
Views: 848

Re: Translation of Phil. 3.16

389. The imperatival infinitive is extremely old and is especially common in Homer, while in Attic it has become less frequent (Schwyzer II 380; subject in nom.). It is limited in the NT to two passages in Paul, both without subject; when the subject is to be expressed, even Paul uses ἵνα: E 5:33 (...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 15th, 2020, 10:33 am
Forum: Greek Texts
Topic: Translation of Phil. 3.16
Replies: 14
Views: 848

Re: Translation of Phil. 3.16

First of all notice that there are text critical issues with the verse, the second infinitive clause omitted in the critical texts. That doesn't affect your question, but it's still nice to know. Secondly, this is simply the infinitive used for the imperative, more frequent in poetry, but not unknow...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 14th, 2020, 3:38 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?
Replies: 33
Views: 1769

Re: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?

Bill Ross wrote:
May 14th, 2020, 11:51 am
Thank you Jeffrey, that makes more contextual sense, I think, and puts my concerns to rest.
I don't know who Jeffrey is, but I'll be sure to pass on your thanks if I meet him.
by Barry Hofstetter
May 14th, 2020, 11:49 am
Forum: Other
Topic: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?
Replies: 33
Views: 1769

Re: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?

Is it perhaps emphatic, along the lines of: "Ananias, how were YOU enticed by the enemy to deceive the holy breath [within the apostles] and conceal part of the land?" IE: "YOU should know better!" Bill, it's certainly not pleonastic, it's normal syntax to express the subject of the infinitive when...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 14th, 2020, 11:42 am
Forum: Other
Topic: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?
Replies: 33
Views: 1769

Re: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?

I often find myself using the Cambridge Grammar of Classical Greek instead of Smyth these days. I often find myself using Siebenthal instead of A.T. Robertson these days. They are easier to read, with great examples. Siebenthal is in German, but it is being translated, I hope the translation is goo...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 14th, 2020, 8:41 am
Forum: Other
Topic: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?
Replies: 33
Views: 1769

Re: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?

As far as grammars go, I lost my entire library in a fire of sorts some years ago and now rely on the internet. I think you will need a good grammar. Increasingly, I am using Kindle editions instead of or in addition to my paper books, which provide better insulation for the walls. I use nearly all...
by Barry Hofstetter
May 13th, 2020, 11:29 am
Forum: Other
Topic: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?
Replies: 33
Views: 1769

Re: In Acts 5:3, what is the function of σε?

No, the subject of the main verb in the English example provided by Michael is "I" and the subject of the infinitive is "her." If the subject were the same it would be something like "I wanted to eat an apple." As in English, so in Greek, if the subjects are the same the subject of the infinitive is...

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