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by Barry Hofstetter
August 15th, 2013, 7:29 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: 1tim5:9
Replies: 9
Views: 3676

Re: 1tim5:9

Let me explain some of the big words and concepts that Barry is using: He means that it is between two different parts of the sentence so it could go either either way. That is it could be either μὴ ἔλαττον ἐτῶν ἑξήκοντα γεγονυῖα "She has come to be not less than 60 years old" or γεγονυῖα ἑνὸς ἀνδρ...
by Barry Hofstetter
August 14th, 2013, 8:03 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: 1tim5:9
Replies: 9
Views: 3676

Re: 1tim5:9

Considering the position of γεγονυῖα in the text, I think it could govern both what precedes and what follows. The use of the perfect here is, I think, stative, i.e., these are to be the current conditions for the women to be admitted as a widow to be supported by the church. εἰμί of course lacks a ...
by Barry Hofstetter
August 13th, 2013, 12:03 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Who does their main bible reading in Greek?
Replies: 28
Views: 15156

Re: Who does their main bible reading in Greek?

And Barry is right, it definitely does stretch your vocabulary muscles to read outside the NT. I heartily recommend it. Try some Attic or Homer too. I'm reading some selections from Xenophon's Memoriblia and the Apology for Socrates with some "review" lessons in Attic grammar and it is very interes...
by Barry Hofstetter
August 12th, 2013, 9:49 am
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Teaching the New Perspective on Greek Voice
Replies: 17
Views: 18274

Re: Teaching the New Perspective on Greek Voice

My deepest apologies to Carl -- I accidentally deleted his post. I hit "edit" instead of "quote" and started deleting only to respond to one part, and when I posted it, saw his sig at the bottom instead of mine, and thinking something had gone wrong, deleted it to start over. Mea culpa, mea maxima.....
by Barry Hofstetter
August 12th, 2013, 6:14 am
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Teaching the New Perspective on Greek Voice
Replies: 17
Views: 18274

Re: Teaching the New Perspective on Greek Voice

Thank you, Carl -- very helpful post.
by Barry Hofstetter
August 11th, 2013, 8:07 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Voice Terminology
Replies: 40
Views: 18838

Re: Voice Terminology

Do you have any ideas about how to bring that out practically in teaching? It always helps to ask how a child will use and grow into the use of the form. When the little kid first walks down the dusty alley she may be saying πορεύομαι. When jumping up and down in some game ἄλλομαι. thus, she frames...
by Barry Hofstetter
August 11th, 2013, 8:00 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Who does their main bible reading in Greek?
Replies: 28
Views: 15156

Re: Who does their main bible reading in Greek?

Hi Barry, I've been self studying for the last 4 years or so with the help of online communities, and although I'm no expert, I have found a level of reading fluency. I am able to read the gospels with relative ease, Luke is still hard though. I've come to expect certain patterns of usage in these ...
by Barry Hofstetter
August 9th, 2013, 12:14 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Voice Terminology
Replies: 40
Views: 18838

Re: Voice Terminology

Okay. I have to teach this stuff on a daily basis. Pedagogically, the distinction between active, passive and middle explains a lot of what's going on with the verbs -- here is this form, and here is what it means. It also has an ancient pedigree -- it's how the ancients themselves conceptualized t...
by Barry Hofstetter
August 8th, 2013, 7:38 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Participles in Sanskrit and other IE languages
Replies: 14
Views: 5890

Re: Participles in Sanskrit and other IE languages

Unfortunately, most of my Latin reading lately has been ecclesiastical including the Vulgate, so I cannot recall the higher style Latin writers at the moment. Yes I was referring to the present active (amans) and perfect passive (amatus) particles, while Greek also has aorist active and present mid...
by Barry Hofstetter
August 7th, 2013, 7:36 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Voice Terminology
Replies: 40
Views: 18838

Re: Voice Terminology

]But voice isn't the actual focus of this thread, is it? I thought we were talking about ἐν+dative. It would be nice to get back to the original focus, surely. I have no idea what this means or how it relates to the discussion at hand. I mean, yeah, I understand the concepts (I think), but it's lik...

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