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by Barry Hofstetter
February 6th, 2013, 7:06 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Mt 28:19-20 participial sequence and subordination
Replies: 6
Views: 1597

Re: Mt 28:19-20 participial sequence and subordination

My initial reaction is no, certainly not. I think we have two participles used coordinately (notice the asyndeton) to unpack what is necessary in the imperative... I'll have more to say on this later, particularly on the comparison with the Didache.
by Barry Hofstetter
February 2nd, 2013, 8:15 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hello from Thom Chittom
Replies: 4
Views: 2343

Re: Hello from Thom Chittom

Greetings, Thom. Good to see you keeping up with it and desiring more. The best way to proceed beyond that second year level is to read lots of Greek, and not just the NT. Hope you do indeed find it helpful here...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 29th, 2013, 7:30 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: UBS or 4th rev. GNT?
Replies: 4
Views: 2946

Re: UBS or 4th rev. GNT?

I want to get a Greek New Testament for translation study, but am not sure whether to get the Aland 4th rev. ed. or the UBS Reader's Edition. Amazon.com doesn't have a preview of the former, but I have been able to see the UBS. The UBS' same-page glossary and other helps are nice, but, really, what...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 27th, 2013, 9:10 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Col2:17b-2:18a τὸ δὲ σῶμα τοῦ Χριστοῦ. μηδεὶς ὑμᾶς καταβραβε
Replies: 33
Views: 7249

Re: Col2:17b-2:18a τὸ δὲ σῶμα τοῦ Χριστοῦ. μηδεὶς ὑμᾶς καταβ

ἅ ἐστιν σκιὰ τῶν μελλόντων, τὸ δὲ σῶμα τοῦ Χριστοῦ. I can see the possibility of apposition here, by carrying the verbal sense to introduce the next clause. which things are a shadow of things coming, that is, [which things are] the body/substance of Christ (is does not appear that accusative is ne...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 27th, 2013, 8:56 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Col2:17b-2:18a τὸ δὲ σῶμα τοῦ Χριστοῦ. μηδεὶς ὑμᾶς καταβραβε
Replies: 33
Views: 7249

Re: Col2:17b-2:18a τὸ δὲ σῶμα τοῦ Χριστοῦ. μηδεὶς ὑμᾶς καταβ

I'm a newby but with the sources I read this is the way I see it. I'm not familiar yet with linguistic terms. First the shadows Paul is referring too is future tense. These shadows which are yet future are in relation to the 'don't let anyone judge you in...' I looked in the Greek and there doesn't...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 27th, 2013, 2:04 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Col2:17b-2:18a τὸ δὲ σῶμα τοῦ Χριστοῦ. μηδεὶς ὑμᾶς καταβραβε
Replies: 33
Views: 7249

Re: Col2:17b-2:18a τὸ δὲ σῶμα τοῦ Χριστοῦ. μηδεὶς ὑμᾶς καταβ

Hey, Tim, I simply meant that it was in apposition to the previous clause, but in contrast with it. As for the syntax, it seems clear to me that the δέ connects it to the previous clause rather than what follows. It's quite common to have such a nominative phrase when the verb to be is understood. S...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 26th, 2013, 8:09 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Col2:17b-2:18a τὸ δὲ σῶμα τοῦ Χριστοῦ. μηδεὶς ὑμᾶς καταβραβε
Replies: 33
Views: 7249

Re: Col2:17b-2:18a τὸ δὲ σῶμα τοῦ Χριστοῦ. μηδεὶς ὑμᾶς καταβ

I can't really make sense of your double accusative proposal. It seems at best awkward. It seems almost like you're taking σῶμα as a vocative. Perhaps you could take σῶμα as an accusative or respect. "But as for the body of Christ, let no one cheat you out of the prize..." Or are you thinking, "Let...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 16th, 2013, 8:05 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: John 6:40 V-PPA Question
Replies: 2
Views: 1386

Re: John 6:40 V-PPA Question

Please note that the present participle refering to πᾶς generalizes it in the sense that Dr. Carlson describes. Also, aspect for a substantive participle is secondary. It describes its referent in terms of a particular type of action, so that ὁ πιστεύων is the practical equivalent of "the believer" ...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 13th, 2013, 11:51 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: ὥρα πατέρος τε καὶ θυγατέρος
Replies: 4
Views: 2775

Re: ὥρα πατέρος τε καὶ θυγατέρος

Thanks, Carl. Amused because it's so opposite what someone who began with NT Greek would assume, and yes, she is very astute. She translated it from its classical context, and I got to explain that it simply means messengers from God. She is my intermediate class this semester (there would have been...
by Barry Hofstetter
January 13th, 2013, 9:47 am
Forum: Other
Topic: ὥρα πατέρος τε καὶ θυγατέρος
Replies: 4
Views: 2775

ὥρα πατέρος τε καὶ θυγατέρος

My daughter is taking intermediate Greek from me at the American academy. We began with a unit in Xenophon's Anabasis, and after Christmas break started our unit in the GNT, starting with Mark. The first time she saw οἱ ἅγγελλοι she rendered as "the messengers..." :D

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