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by Barry Hofstetter
December 8th, 2019, 7:37 pm
Forum: Writing Greek
Topic: John 17:5 and Existence in God's Plan
Replies: 19
Views: 887

Re: John 17:5 and Existence in God's Plan

There are others on this forum, so I won't be the only one. Ancient Greek is as "doable" as any other language, and it's just matter practice. Your translation reflects what I intended, so I must have gotten something right... :lol: The point, however, is that there is a set of biblical vocabulary a...
by Barry Hofstetter
December 8th, 2019, 4:11 pm
Forum: Writing Greek
Topic: John 17:5 and Existence in God's Plan
Replies: 19
Views: 887

Re: John 17:5 and Existence in God's Plan

Greetings, At John 17:5 we find these words: καὶ νῦν δόξασόν με σύ Πάτερ παρὰ σεαυτῷ τῇ δόξῃ ᾗ εἶχον πρὸ τοῦ τὸν κόσμον εἶναι παρὰ σοί It has been suggested to me that this text is not saying that the one who became Jesus literally existed in heaven in a glorious state before the world came to be, ...
by Barry Hofstetter
December 5th, 2019, 11:49 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Athanasius Contra Gentes
Replies: 59
Views: 19028

Re: Athanasius Contra Gentes

RE: Two Ways Which is why I was undecided. RE: Rhetoric This part is nicely rhetorical. What you see depends on where your at. A Philologist sees rhetoric. Information structure is a different concept. My notion of "packages" falls vaguely under information structure but isn't an extension any part...
by Barry Hofstetter
December 5th, 2019, 11:59 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Colors in Ancient Greek
Replies: 33
Views: 1771

Re: Colors in Ancient Greek

Not bad. There is a long history of discussion concerning colors in the ancient world, and how precisely the ancients, particularly during the Homeric period (both the time of composition and earlier), actually perceived colors. By Hellenistic-Roman period, though, they seem fairly well defined. Thi...
by Barry Hofstetter
December 5th, 2019, 11:55 am
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Food for thought...
Replies: 0
Views: 156

Food for thought...

This concerns primarily teaching Latin, but certainly has application to teaching ancient Greek:

by Barry Hofstetter
December 4th, 2019, 11:52 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Athanasius Contra Gentes
Replies: 59
Views: 19028

Re: Athanasius Contra Gentes

Some elaborate theological language in this treatise. Not sure what to do with τὸν , possibly match it with Θεὸν . καὶ τὸν παρ' ἡμῶν προσκυνούμενον, καὶ κηρυττόμενον τοῦτον μόνον εἶναι Θεὸν ἀληθῆ, τὸν καὶ τῆς κτίσεως Κύριον καὶ πάσης ὑποστάσεως δημιουργόν. This part is nicely rhetorical. Two ways t...
by Barry Hofstetter
December 3rd, 2019, 4:41 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Book Review: Myths and Mistakes in NT Textual Criticism
Replies: 5
Views: 449

Re: Book Review: Myths and Mistakes in NT Textual Criticism

Nice, sounds like a good recommendation for lay people interested in the topic. "The" Kirsopp Lake, maybe not a typo! :lol:
by Barry Hofstetter
November 29th, 2019, 1:40 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Athanasius Contra Gentes
Replies: 59
Views: 19028

Re: Athanasius Contra Gentes

Sounds like you're getting a good handle on Athanasius' style. Generally periodic, but at the same time somewhat idiosyncratic in the way he handles his periodicity. I must admit I sometimes shake my head at Newman's translation, however...
by Barry Hofstetter
November 26th, 2019, 4:31 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Athanasius Contra Gentes
Replies: 59
Views: 19028

Re: Athanasius Contra Gentes

Yes, you simply have an intervening subordinate clause, not at all unusual for authors who adopt a periodic style.
by Barry Hofstetter
November 25th, 2019, 1:27 pm
Forum: Grammars
Topic: Siebenthal - Ancient Greek Grammar
Replies: 18
Views: 1771

Re: Siebenthal - Ancient Greek Grammar

And I'm writing a review on it (my copy is also in the mail). The review is not due until the end of summer 2020, but I'll give everybody a sneak preview of coming attractions as soon as I can. In the meantime, I don't doubt that some people already have it, so feel free to post your reactions.

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