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by Barry Hofstetter
July 19th, 2020, 8:46 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Syntax of Matthew 19:9
Replies: 4
Views: 516

Re: Syntax of Matthew 19:9

Just by way of reminder, we discuss the Greek on B-Greek, and don't normally discuss translations, except in so far as a translation may illustrate a particular understanding of the Greek. We also generally cite the Greek text if possible: λέγω δὲ ὑμῖν ὅτι ὃς ἂν ἀπολύσῃ τὴν γυναῖκα αὐτοῦ μὴ ἐπὶ πορν...
by Barry Hofstetter
July 18th, 2020, 11:13 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Gen 4:23
Replies: 9
Views: 847

Re: Gen 4:23

All the translations you mention are based on the Hebrew. We can of course discuss what the Greek of the LXX means, and how that shows the translator's understanding of the Hebrew, but the translations and Rashi all work with the Hebrew.
by Barry Hofstetter
July 16th, 2020, 9:41 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Adverbs
Replies: 6
Views: 653

Re: Adverbs

The definition of "adverb" that you have been given is accurate, and has ancient attestation... In general, adverbs will tend to be close to what they modify, often before, but not always. In John 14:3, there is little doubt that it has to modify ἔρχομαι. It follows the usual syntax and makes the be...
by Barry Hofstetter
July 15th, 2020, 11:03 am
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: In Habakkuk 2:4 LXX, what does ἐκ πίστεώς μου tell us?
Replies: 11
Views: 1099

Re: In Habakkuk 2:4 LXX, what does ἐκ πίστεώς μου tell us?

Wow, those were two incredibly helpful posts. To complicate the textual issues even more is that in the DSS of the Hebrew texts things are complicated: https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/45219/is-habakkuk-24-dss-an-interpolation-in-progress So despite all these resources, the fidelity...
by Barry Hofstetter
July 13th, 2020, 9:20 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects
Replies: 73
Views: 5170

Re: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects

The people with the best "feel" for a language, of course, are the native speakers. Unfortunately, native speakers are notoriously poor at describing how their own language works. We expect more out of grammarians, linguistics, and language teachers, but as this ongoing survey of grammars is showin...
by Barry Hofstetter
July 12th, 2020, 4:36 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects
Replies: 73
Views: 5170

Re: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects

νεκρός has a special status as a cultural universal. When used in the plural it generally doesn't require referential disambiguation. This has implications which need to be taken into account when trying to figure out what the lack of the article means. The article is so ubiquitous and important (w...
by Barry Hofstetter
July 9th, 2020, 4:59 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects
Replies: 73
Views: 5170

Re: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects

The Cambridge Grammar of Classical Greek (2019, p. 328 ff.) is a bit clearer with the article in general. Meaning: * "The article is 'definite' because it refers to someone/something that is identifiable." * Reasons for identifiability: ** mentioned before ** obvious from the context or made specif...
by Barry Hofstetter
July 9th, 2020, 12:08 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects
Replies: 73
Views: 5170

Re: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects

Daniel Semler wrote:
July 9th, 2020, 12:05 pm
Barry Hofstetter wrote:
July 9th, 2020, 11:45 am

Almost needless to say, the ECF's tend to use the phrase almost exclusively without the article, perhaps in imitation of the predominant NT usage.
I was following you until ECF's. Early Church Fathers ?

thx
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Yes, a fairly standard abbreviation.
by Barry Hofstetter
July 9th, 2020, 11:55 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects
Replies: 73
Views: 5170

Re: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects

Though it is often a faux pas in linguistic description to appeal to speaker's choice, one has to wonder if the usage or non-usage of the article in (at least certain) prepositional phrases in certain instances was heavily influenced by the personal preferences of the speaker/writer? My favorite ex...
by Barry Hofstetter
July 9th, 2020, 11:45 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects
Replies: 73
Views: 5170

Re: Greek Grammars on the Articulation of Prepositional Objects

I'm speculation everywhere :) And I'm not arguing against you. This is just an interesting topic. Of course, same here. I thought it would be fun to search some extra biblical literature, and came up with this example from Euripides Helen : νεκρῶν φέροντας ὀνόματʼ εἰς οἴκους πάλιν (399) "Bearing th...

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