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by Mark Lightman
September 10th, 2011, 8:28 pm
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Self Taught Living Koine ?
Replies: 20
Views: 9396

Re: Self Taught Living Koine ?

χαῖρε Ματτ. σε ἀσπάζομαι. καλῶς ἦλθες πρὸς τὸν Β-Γρεεκ. There is only one way to obtain full fluency in any language--immersion. There are two types of immersion--physical immersion and mental immersion. Physical immersion is moving to a place where natives speak the language. You cannot do this for...
by Mark Lightman
September 10th, 2011, 8:24 am
Forum: Resources
Topic: Mounce's Biblical Greek: A Compact Guide
Replies: 19
Views: 6086

Re: Mounce's Biblical Greek: A Compact Guide

Hi, Louis,

I like the format of Mounce's other books. Does he include the optative here?

I agree with Rod. We're gonna need a bigger book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT9BeGNnCqw

Man is to man a wolf, and Greek is to man a shark!

ἔρρωσο φίλτατε.
by Mark Lightman
September 9th, 2011, 8:18 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Rom 4:25
Replies: 11
Views: 1805

Re: Rom 4:25

I agree with Barry that the two διά's here have marginally different forces. However, to explain this, one would either have to translate, which is treasonous, or one would have to use meta-language jargon like "prospectively" and "retrospectively," which is a different kind of treason. I would para...
by Mark Lightman
September 6th, 2011, 9:25 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: "Tools of the Trade"
Replies: 17
Views: 6680

Re: "Tools of the Trade"

Hi, Shirley. It's great to see you on the new forum. What is the point of learning New Testament Greek? There are only two reasons to learn New Testament Greek. (1) It makes it easier to distort the text to make it say what you want it to. Rob Bell, for example, in his best-selling book "Love Wins,"...
by Mark Lightman
September 5th, 2011, 10:06 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hello from Raleigh NC
Replies: 4
Views: 1162

Re: Hello from Raleigh NC

Hello from Raleigh NC...The memory work is a killer. I'm really not sure of this...
Hi,

Memory work is to learning Ancient Greek what tobacco is to North Carolina.
by Mark Lightman
September 3rd, 2011, 4:55 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Time in the conditional clause
Replies: 5
Views: 1960

Re: Time in the conditional clause

...this construction is usually called "past contrary to fact."
The best example of a past contrary to fact condition in English is the old Three Stooges joke:

ATTRACTIVE YOUNG LADY: "Strange men are following me!"
SHEMP: "They'd be strange if they didn't."

:lol:
by Mark Lightman
August 29th, 2011, 8:49 pm
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Koine pleasantries
Replies: 4
Views: 1909

Re: Koine pleasantries

Hi, Stephen, Paula Saffire offers some text and audio of the stuff she uses in her class. Scroll down to "sample scripts." http://blue.butler.edu/~psaffire/textbook.html And you know, I assume, about the "Do you speak Attic?" phrase book revised by Louis and Carl: http://www.letsreadgreek.com/phrase...
by Mark Lightman
August 28th, 2011, 10:02 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 29761

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

Hi, Randall and Vasile, Randall wrote: You want to read Shakespeare and you want to read Chaucer. They have radically different pronounciation systems. Which one should you use? Should you read Shakespeare with Chaucer, should you read Chaucer with Shakespeare? or should you concentrate on the one a...
by Mark Lightman
August 27th, 2011, 11:23 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Tim 2:12 - should both infinitives apply to ANHR?
Replies: 11
Views: 3378

Re: 1 Tim 2:12 - should both infinitives apply to ANHR?

Hi, George. It's nice to see you on the new forum. I too have appreciated Ann's past contributions to the list. Unfortunately, however, she does have an agenda which is to remove perceived disabilities imposed upon women most particularly in Paul... I agree, not that this is NECESSARILY a bad thing....
by Mark Lightman
August 26th, 2011, 11:01 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Tim 2:12 - should both infinitives apply to ANHR?
Replies: 11
Views: 3378

Re: 1 Tim 2:12 - should both infinitives apply to ANHR?

Hi, Eric, I do think that ἀνδρός is, according to the sense, the object of both verbs, in a case of what linguists call "gapping," which is very common in Greek. Now for something completely different. Ann Nyland, in her Source New Testament, does something very strange with this verse: "I certainly...

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