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by jtauber
December 15th, 2015, 1:13 pm
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Teaching lookalikes for a passage
Replies: 18
Views: 24099

Re: Teaching lookalikes for a passage

I've gotten bit a few times by accents that don't match the 'normalized form' (e.g. when τις gets accented because of sentence context), so it might be useful to mention a few of those examples as well. Not to to get too off-topic but I'm working on annotating MorphGNT with the reasons why the norm...
by jtauber
November 30th, 2015, 8:49 pm
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: The most frequent verb forms - not the first ones learned
Replies: 10
Views: 18910

Re: The most frequent verb forms - not the first ones learne

Jonathan Robie wrote:The SBLGNT syntax tree doesn't have normalized surface forms, so I think capitalization and enclitics messed up my counts. A reminder that the command line is useful for simple things ...
Also a reminder why I added the normalisation field to MorphGNT :-)
by jtauber
November 30th, 2015, 10:42 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: A Morphological Lexicon of New Testament Greek
Replies: 1
Views: 967

Re: A Morphological Lexicon of New Testament Greek

I'm not sure I would characterise my approach as less traditional. While I'm coming from a very modern viewpoint with regard to morphology, that viewpoint is in many respects a return to very traditional approaches that focus on paradigms rather than morphemes. People who are interested in the work ...
by jtauber
November 22nd, 2015, 8:52 am
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Major's 50% and 80% lists
Replies: 11
Views: 14951

Re: Major's 50% and 80% lists

I should note that, even though I produced the lists, I also am: (a) not a fan of purely frequency-based approaches (b) a big believer in showing words in constructions rather than glossing them in isolation While I would love a full-blown pattern dictionary / construct-i-con, one less ambitious thi...
by jtauber
November 17th, 2015, 2:06 am
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: The cost of learning a form
Replies: 2
Views: 6910

Re: The cost of learning a form

I should also clarify, I'm not suggesting students actually study themes and distinguishers (any more than they should study stems and endings and sandhi). I'm just suggesting we *model* learnability using such things.
by jtauber
November 17th, 2015, 1:04 am
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: The most frequent verb forms - not the first ones learned
Replies: 10
Views: 18910

Re: The most frequent verb forms - not the first ones learne

I presume that list is the entire GNT, although my numbers are different:

896 ἐστί(ν)
610 εἶπε(ν)
336 λέγει
314 ἦν
211 λέγω
201 ἐγένετο
178 λέγων
156 εἰσί(ν)
150 λέγοντες
138 εἰμί

That's using

Code: Select all

grep " V- " *.txt | awk '{print $6}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -r | head
on MorphGNT.
by jtauber
November 17th, 2015, 12:22 am
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Major's 50% and 80% lists
Replies: 11
Views: 14951

Re: James Tauber is blogging daily until SBL

I've done quite a bit of playing with Major's 50% and 80% lists, attempting to reduce it to suit both NT Greek and communicative teaching. The latter requires some words that would be typically used in classroom work. I'm thrilled to see that Tauber analyzed the GNT this way. He offers a link to th...
by jtauber
November 16th, 2015, 11:44 pm
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: The most frequent verb forms - not the first ones learned
Replies: 10
Views: 18910

Re: The most frequent verb forms - not the first ones learne

My thinking in http://jktauber.com/2015/11/13/initial-thoughts-cost-learning-form/ follows from the question: if you do start learning the most frequent *forms* first, at what point do you assume the reader can infer the rest of the forms for a lexeme? Thinking out loud: the student learns common fo...
by jtauber
November 16th, 2015, 11:16 pm
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: The most frequent verb forms - not the first ones learned
Replies: 10
Views: 18910

Re: The most frequent verb forms - not the first ones learne

I made a similar point in my BibleTech 2015 talk http://jktauber.com/2015/05/06/my-bibletech-2015-talk/ . From about 17:37 thru 18:20 I specifically talked about why students could learn forms like ἔδωκεν long before knowing how δίδωμι conjugates in the present. I think students could learn all thos...
by jtauber
November 16th, 2015, 4:29 pm
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: The cost of learning a form
Replies: 2
Views: 6910

Re: The cost of learning a form

Well as I hope the post made clear, that's just the start. There's more to capture about the relationship between distinguishers and the post was just some initial thoughts.

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