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by Barry Hofstetter
April 22nd, 2015, 8:54 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: "δια + GEN" vs "δια του"
Replies: 10
Views: 4416

Re: "δια + GEN" vs "δια του"

I've never seen it done before, but I agree with Paul -- the more we can use Greek to do Greek the better off we are. Paul, I think the rationale for using τοῦ is that the masculine or or possibly neuter singular would be the default form if one is simply expressing which case the preposition takes.
by Barry Hofstetter
April 18th, 2015, 9:07 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hi from New Zealand
Replies: 7
Views: 1437

Re: Hi from New Zealand

Greetings, and welcome to the list. I can only say that even on the "human" level, with literature that finds its genius strictly in the inspiration of the author, the ability to read the text in the original language yields immeasurable benefits in terms of understanding it. It is far bet...
by Barry Hofstetter
April 18th, 2015, 9:00 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Syntax Question on 2 John 3
Replies: 8
Views: 2048

Re: Syntax Question on 2 John 3

I'm assuming Ephesians 2:8 would be treated similarly: 8 τῇ γὰρ χάριτί ἐστε σεσῳσμένοι διὰ πίστεως· καὶ τοῦτο οὐκ ἐξ ὑμῶν, θεοῦ τὸ δῶρον It has two feminine nouns and a masculine participle. I assume since "τοῦτο" is a neuter singular demonstrative that it is referring to the whole phrase...
by Barry Hofstetter
April 2nd, 2015, 7:37 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Rev 13:8 ἀπὸ καταβολῆς κόσμου
Replies: 19
Views: 3484

Re: Rev 13:8 ἀπὸ καταβολῆς κόσμου

Just a few additional comments on a fine discussion: 1) If there weren't theological considerations of some importance to people I don't think that any one would take ἀπὸ καταβολῆς κόσμου with γέγραπται. It's just too far separated. 2) Having said that, the Greek of Revelation is not exactly normal ...
by Barry Hofstetter
March 29th, 2015, 2:30 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Matt. 27:51 μετὰ τὴν ἔγερσιν αὐτοῦ
Replies: 6
Views: 1042

Re: Matt. 27:51 μετὰ τὴν ἔγερσιν αὐτοῦ

This was actually the passage I wrote my Th.M. thesis on at WTS. I never remember once thinking that the placement of the phrase was awkward. Looking at t now it strikes me that the placement of the prepositional prhrase between the participial ἐξελθόντες ἐκ τῶν μνημείων and the main verb εἰσῆλθον ...
by Barry Hofstetter
March 28th, 2015, 7:35 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Matt. 27:51 μετὰ τὴν ἔγερσιν αὐτοῦ
Replies: 6
Views: 1042

Re: Matt. 27:51 μετὰ τὴν ἔγερσιν αὐτοῦ

This was actually the passage I wrote my Th.M. thesis on at WTS. I never remember once thinking that the placement of the phrase was awkward. Looking at t now it strikes me that the placement of the prepositional prhrase between the participial ἐξελθόντες ἐκ τῶν μνημείων and the main verb εἰσῆλθον h...
by Barry Hofstetter
March 19th, 2015, 6:22 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Έρχομαι definition?
Replies: 8
Views: 2712

Re: Έρχομαι definition?

ἔρχομαι simply means "to move in space" the direction of which is determined by the point of view of the writer or speaker. That's another way, I suppose, of saying that the proper English translation is contextually determined... :roll:
by Barry Hofstetter
March 11th, 2015, 4:50 am
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: The Logic of Matt 11:27 & Patristic Greek citations
Replies: 4
Views: 1751

Re: The Logic of Matt 11:27 & Patristic Greek citations

I must admit that I have trouble seeing how switching the order of the two clauses without changing the syntax of the two clauses would so change the meaning as he suggests. Have you had a chance to look at the secondary source he cites?
by Barry Hofstetter
February 25th, 2015, 10:16 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: ἰδίοις vs. ἑαυτοῦ
Replies: 23
Views: 4432

Re: ἰδίοις vs. ἑαυτοῦ

Runge's formulation is not "change has meaning" but "change implies meaning," which already builds in the notion that it is not necessarily the case. You've started with the calm is "often" the case and now I'm happy to see it watered down to "not necessarily the ...
by Barry Hofstetter
February 24th, 2015, 6:41 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: ἰδίοις vs. ἑαυτοῦ
Replies: 23
Views: 4432

Re: ἰδίοις vs. ἑαυτοῦ

The two are practical synonyms by NT times.

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