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by Barry Hofstetter
February 19th, 2014, 10:41 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Rev 19:7
Replies: 21
Views: 5297

Re: Rev 19:7

αρνιον and αμνος are simply considered synonyms, diminutive force having been lost by the time the NT is being written. Thanks for your input Barry, I've heard this before but what i don't understand is, why the writer of John, uses both these words for lamb. He obviously made a conscious decision ...
by Barry Hofstetter
February 19th, 2014, 9:05 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Shalom
Replies: 25
Views: 5559

Re: Shalom

Thanks for your input guys, Your right, understanding must come into play when translating. The trouble is, my understanding of the entire scriptures, is not the same as the majority. So i see things differently and a translator may do the same, he will base his translations on his understanding. F...
by Barry Hofstetter
February 19th, 2014, 6:04 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Antecedant of LATREUO of Rev. 22:3
Replies: 40
Views: 11168

Re: Antecedant of LATREUO of Rev. 22:3

Barry, It seems to me that τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ τοῦ ἀρνίου acts as a single grammatical unit and serves specifically to modify ὁ θρόνος. To single out ἀρνίου breaking it out of its primary function in the noun phrase and elevating it to a subject seems odd to me. If anything the whole grammatical unit of τ...
by Barry Hofstetter
February 18th, 2014, 2:11 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Shalom
Replies: 25
Views: 5559

Re: Shalom

Thanks, After having looked at a few posts on here, I've noticed that it seems a common occurence that the greek grammar is incorrectly translated in Revelation. This is where my interest in the greek is. I've gathered a couple of opinions on these texts so far, no one is in agreement though, so th...
by Barry Hofstetter
February 18th, 2014, 1:59 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Rev 19:7
Replies: 21
Views: 5297

Re: Rev 19:7

Good call, Ken!
by Barry Hofstetter
February 18th, 2014, 1:55 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Antecedant of LATREUO of Rev. 22:3
Replies: 40
Views: 11168

Re: Object of LATREUO of Rev. 22:3

καὶ οἱ δοῦλοι αὐτοῦ λατρεύσουσιν αὐτῷ, In short, the situation is that because we know that the lamb refers to Jesus, How do you know for sure that the lamb refers to jesus and not a follower of his, one of his lambkins? Why didnt the writer use the masculine lamb instead of the neuter? Isn't that ...
by Barry Hofstetter
February 18th, 2014, 10:39 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Rev 19:7
Replies: 21
Views: 5297

Re: Rev 19:7

Hi, I am a beginner but straight away i have spotted this in the sinaiticus and the textus receptus. Revelation 19:7 in the translations it reads ' Let us rejoice and be glad, and give glory to him; for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and his wife has made herself ready. '. Some translations say...
by Barry Hofstetter
February 18th, 2014, 7:38 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Shalom
Replies: 25
Views: 5559

Re: Shalom

Greetings and welcome, Catherine. Many of us have found over the years that we really learned English grammar as a result of studying another language, Greek (and Latin) being especially helpful. Your interest in the language, being interested in particular passages, is often the entry point for man...
by Barry Hofstetter
February 18th, 2014, 7:27 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Antecedant of LATREUO of Rev. 22:3
Replies: 40
Views: 11168

Re: Antecedant of LATREUO of Rev. 22:3

Barry, It seems to me that ἀρνίου forms a grammatical unit with θεοῦ in the noun phrase τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ τοῦ ἀρνίου which modifies ὁ θρόνος and does not serve to introduce a subject.Why would we look for an antecedent in a noun phrase in the genitive that acts as modifier to a noun? It seems to me both...
by Barry Hofstetter
February 17th, 2014, 10:21 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Terminology
Replies: 8
Views: 3549

Terminology

Is there a technical term for an ending that can refer to more than one thing? "Single termination" is what I remember a Greek professor of yore using, but is there something more sophistykated sounding? :) For example, -ῳ as a dative singular can be either masculine or neuter. How do we s...

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