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by Stirling Bartholomew
August 16th, 2014, 12:22 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: ... what any fifth-form boy forgets at his peril
Replies: 10
Views: 2325

... what any fifth-form boy forgets at his peril

1John 2:6 ὁ λέγων ἐν αὐτῷ μένειν ὀφείλει καθὼς ἐκεῖνος περιεπάτησεν καὶ αὐτὸς [οὕτως] περιπατεῖν. We are reading 1John over on textkit. I assume that M. Culy cannot be wrong. Never the less I had a nagging doubt about his comment concerning αὐτὸς that it cannot be the subject of the infinitive becau...
by Stirling Bartholomew
August 14th, 2014, 6:41 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Matthew 6.8 "before you ask him"
Replies: 14
Views: 3891

Re: Matthew 6.8 "before you ask him"

Matthew 6.7-8 Προσευχόμενοι δὲ μὴ βατταλογήσητε ὥσπερ οἱ ἐθνικοί, δοκοῦσιν γὰρ ὅτι ἐν τῇ πολυλογίᾳ αὐτῶν εἰσακουσθήσονται· 8μὴ οὖν ὁμοιωθῆτε αὐτοῖς, οἶδεν γὰρ ^ὁ πατὴρ ὑμῶν ὧν χρείαν ἔχετε πρὸ τοῦ ὑμᾶς αἰτῆσαι αὐτόν. In my reading of this the aorist πρὸ τοῦ ὑμᾶς αἰτῆσαι αὐτόν does not indicate &quo...
by Stirling Bartholomew
August 14th, 2014, 3:16 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Matthew 6.8 "before you ask him"
Replies: 14
Views: 3891

Re: Matthew 6.8 "before you ask him"

The author in question appears to have contributed to a number of publications. WORLDCAT 55 works in 120 publications in 8 languages and 450 library holdings Genres: Commentaries Dictionaries Roles: Editor, Commentator, Translator, Creator, Adapter Classifications: BS75, 220.5 Evangelo secondo Matte...
by Stirling Bartholomew
August 13th, 2014, 2:26 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Matthew 6.8 "before you ask him"
Replies: 14
Views: 3891

Re: Matthew 6.8 "before you ask him"

The aorist is treated like a semantic "wild card" (a joker) in exegetical works of dubious merit.
by Stirling Bartholomew
August 7th, 2014, 4:26 pm
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Topic - Focus John 2:4b Jesus' reply
Replies: 6
Views: 2423

Re: Topic - Focus John 2:4b Jesus' reply

[καὶ] λέγει αὐτῇ ὁ Ἰησοῦς· τί ἐμοὶ καὶ σοί, γύναι; οὔπω ἥκει ἡ ὥρα μου. I'll give this a try, but I have to say that I use a different system (based on the ideas of Manfred Krifka and to a lesser extent, of Nomi Erteschik‑Shir) in which I view topic and focus as belonging to two different dimension...
by Stirling Bartholomew
August 7th, 2014, 3:53 pm
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Topic - Focus John 2:4b Jesus' reply
Replies: 6
Views: 2423

Re: Topic - Focus John 2:4b Jesus' reply

Not talking about "understood" verbs that are not present in the output. I also have a problem with "understood" verbs. In contexts where greek doesn't require an explicit ἐστί.. it seems like we are imposing English rules on Greek to say that the verb is "virtually present...
by Stirling Bartholomew
August 6th, 2014, 9:56 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Romans 2:14 'by nature'
Replies: 6
Views: 2013

Re: Romans 2:14 'by nature'

Jonathan Robie wrote:
Barry Hofstetter wrote:Ha! I call your Abbott-Smith and raise you one BDAG:
Yeah, I only have it on paper, and I'm too lazy to type it in ;->
Yeah and our paper copies cost us 25% of what the e-texts are offered at. I got mine the same time as Jonathan when Jim West sang the hallelujah on his roof.
by Stirling Bartholomew
August 4th, 2014, 5:58 pm
Forum: Books
Topic: Porter's Linguistic Analysis of the Greek New Testament
Replies: 31
Views: 29675

Re: Porter's Linguistic Analysis of the Greek New Testament

The problem with Porterism on aspect and discourse is that he gets things backwards. Perfectives primarily form a foregrounded framework of narrative and imperfectives primarily provide the background. That is standard linguistic fare and Levinsohn would agree with it, as do I. Linking two aspects ...
by Stirling Bartholomew
August 3rd, 2014, 6:37 pm
Forum: Books
Topic: Porter's Linguistic Analysis of the Greek New Testament
Replies: 31
Views: 29675

Re: Porter's Linguistic Analysis of the Greek New Testament

Another angle on all of this that Porter got wrong from the beginning is the historical present. Porter claimed to "explain" it by claiming that it was only an imperfective aspect and did not carry present time marking. What he didn't understand and what those listening to him didn't unde...
by Stirling Bartholomew
August 3rd, 2014, 4:20 pm
Forum: Books
Topic: Porter's Linguistic Analysis of the Greek New Testament
Replies: 31
Views: 29675

Re: Porter's Linguistic Analysis of the Greek New Testament

Clay, A couple of points. On discourse: In linguistics, texts are viewed as having a mainline structure and in narrative this is typically a past-tense perfective aspect providing the basic skeleton/framework of events, other tenses are used for filling in the picture as background. Porter turns th...

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