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- January 10th, 2020, 10:36 pm
- Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
- Topic: Athanasius Contra Gentes
- Replies: 61
- Views: 65315
Re: Athanasius Contra Gentes
Stirling, I initially meant ἀναιρέω didn't seem like the sort of action a teaching does. A γραφή can proclaim, testify, etc though, as your citations as well as many biblical verses show. That said, I agree I postulated a weak reason; a teaching can conceivably lead to many things. Interestingly Ari...
- January 8th, 2020, 6:50 pm
- Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
- Topic: Athanasius Contra Gentes
- Replies: 61
- Views: 65315
Re: Athanasius Contra Gentes
The attributive position can be filled with arbitrarily long and complex phrases. God/Word (focus of entire §45) is the subject of ἀνελών, because a teaching cannot be the one to "abolish the godlessness etc", and as you've noted, the case mismatch is a strong clue as well. Thus imho Newma...
- January 5th, 2020, 6:19 am
- Forum: What does this text mean?
- Topic: 1 Clement 20:5 - ἀβύσσων τε ἀνεξιχνίαστα καὶ νερτέρων ἀνεκδιήγητα κρίματα
- Replies: 9
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Re: 1 Clement 20:5 - ἀβύσσων τε ἀνεξιχνίαστα καὶ νερτέρων ἀνεκδιήγητα κρίματα
Btw Barry (sorry Matthew I tend to hijack threads), you're not a hypocrite, you just love the greek language too damn much, as all of us in here do I guess.
- January 3rd, 2020, 2:21 pm
- Forum: What does this text mean?
- Topic: 1 Clement 20:5 - ἀβύσσων τε ἀνεξιχνίαστα καὶ νερτέρων ἀνεκδιήγητα κρίματα
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4984
Re: 1 Clement 20:5 - ἀβύσσων τε ἀνεξιχνίαστα καὶ νερτέρων ἀνεκδιήγητα κρίματα
Matthew, you may like to know William Wake translated it (freely, no doubt thinking of Genesis 1:2) structurally almost as you did: So also the unfathomable and unsearchable floods of the deep, are kept in by his command. He did it from Codex Alexandrinus: a.jpg (I can imagine Barry groaning "W...
- January 1st, 2020, 5:02 am
- Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
- Topic: φανεροω in Eph 5:13
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2669
Re: φανεροω in Eph 5:13
Eph 5:8-15 is reflexive, and imma venture to suggest "enlightened" for φανερούμενον, Off-topic: So that's where the phrase "rise and shine" probably came from. I'm also intrigued by some parallel with an old chinese phrase to describe an upright man 光明磊落 (like light, like landing...
- January 1st, 2020, 4:44 am
- Forum: Teaching Methods
- Topic: The term "grammar-translation method"
- Replies: 8
- Views: 7282
Re: The term "grammar-translation method"
That article linked above reminds me of a formalism vs post-structuralism debate I had in aesthetics class a long time ago.
- January 1st, 2020, 4:30 am
- Forum: What does this text mean?
- Topic: 1 Clement 20:5 - ἀβύσσων τε ἀνεξιχνίαστα καὶ νερτέρων ἀνεκδιήγητα κρίματα
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4984
Re: 1 Clement 20:5 - ἀβύσσων τε ἀνεξιχνίαστα καὶ νερτέρων ἀνεκδιήγητα κρίματα
I'm almost with Holmes et al, "The incomprehensiveness of the abysses and the indescribability of the underword — judgements of both are constrained by the same ordinances" (getting impatient with grammatical analysis; imma leave it to hardcore grammarians here). The preceding verses are s...
- November 23rd, 2019, 5:38 am
- Forum: Syntax and Grammar
- Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
- Replies: 16
- Views: 5579
Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Parts of the epistles and extra-biblical texts can be quite convoluted, but the gospels are fairly straightforward.Greek word order is sometimes very strange and surprising
- November 22nd, 2019, 4:47 pm
- Forum: Syntax and Grammar
- Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
- Replies: 16
- Views: 5579
Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
> You apparently deleted the post where you explained this? Ya, I tried copying by hand Wallace here and gave up. Thanks for pasting part of it here. > Partitives are used in very specific constructions, and none of those are used here. How specific? The first eg. in that Smyth snippet τῶν Θρᾳκῶν πε...
- November 22nd, 2019, 4:10 am
- Forum: Syntax and Grammar
- Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
- Replies: 16
- Views: 5579
Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Jean, I understand. Barry argued for a cataphoric possessive αὐτῶν while I argued for an anaphoric partitive. Note the KJV translators opted for an anaphoric possessive (with perplexing effect)! The situation with the scribes and pharisees at the banquet is uncertain. We don't know the banquet progr...