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ἀπὸ ὁ...

Posted: December 2nd, 2015, 2:01 pm
by Chris Servanti
In Revelation 1:4 it says, "χάρις ὑμῖν καὶ εἰρήνη ἀπὸ ὁ ὤν καὶ ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος..."
Why does it say ἀπὸ ὁ instead of ἀπὸ τοῦ?

Re: ἀπὸ ὁ...

Posted: December 2nd, 2015, 2:34 pm
by Stirling Bartholomew
Chris Servanti wrote:In Revelation 1:4 it says, "χάρις ὑμῖν καὶ εἰρήνη ἀπὸ ὁ ὤν καὶ ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος..."
Why does it say ἀπὸ ὁ instead of ἀπὸ τοῦ?

You might think of ὁ ὤν καὶ ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος as a proper name without inflection. This is just one example of the author's "creative" use of the language.

Re: ἀπὸ ὁ...

Posted: December 3rd, 2015, 2:10 am
by Louis L Sorenson
In Revelation 1:4 it says, "χάρις ὑμῖν καὶ εἰρήνη ἀπὸ ὁ ὤν καὶ ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος..."
Why does it say ἀπὸ ὁ instead of ἀπὸ τοῦ?
Or you could read it as a truncated version of "ἀπὸ (οὗ ἐστιν) ὁ ὤν καὶ ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος..."

Re: ἀπὸ ὁ...

Posted: December 3rd, 2015, 2:17 am
by Stephen Hughes
Louis L Sorenson wrote:
In Revelation 1:4 it says, "χάρις ὑμῖν καὶ εἰρήνη ἀπὸ ὁ ὤν καὶ ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος..."
Why does it say ἀπὸ ὁ instead of ἀπὸ τοῦ?
Or you could read it as a truncated version of "ἀπὸ (οὗ ἐστιν) ὁ ὤν καὶ ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος..."
Perhaps
ἀπὸ (αὐτοῦ ὅς ἐστιν) ὁ ὤν καὶ ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος

Louis, perhaps yours would mean that ἀπὸ (οὗ) and ὁ ὤν καὶ ὁ ἦν καὶ ὁ ἐρχόμενος stand either side of the ἐστιν, with the ἀπὸ as the first word in a new phrase, I think.