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Ghost of Christmas Future Imperfect Conditional

Posted: December 17th, 2015, 12:49 pm
by Jonathan Robie
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Re: Ghost of Christmas Future Imperfect Conditional

Posted: December 17th, 2015, 2:52 pm
by Stephen Hughes
How about this for a translation?
  • Ἰδοὺ εἶπον ἡμῖν τοῖς μὴ μετανοήσασι ἄν τὰ ἐπιγενησόμενα.

Re: Ghost of Christmas Future Imperfect Conditional

Posted: December 17th, 2015, 4:11 pm
by cwconrad
Jonathan Robie wrote:Image
Are we to assume that you got this directly from the volume, Greek Grammar So Far Beyond the Basics that You'd Never Have Guessed It in Your Wildest Imagination? :D
Stephen Hughes wrote:How about this for a translation?
  • Ἰδοὺ εἶπον ἡμῖν τοῖς μὴ μετανοήσασι ἄν τὰ ἐπιγενησόμενα.
I'm somewhat confused about the syntactical function of ἄν here; Is it intended to imply, "I would have told you ... "? or "those who would never have repented"? I take it does not refer to the final phrase and mean "things things that would have happened." I suspect we have a case here of the fallacy of the inclusive ἁν. :D

Re: Ghost of Christmas Future Imperfect Conditional

Posted: December 17th, 2015, 4:42 pm
by Jonathan Robie
cwconrad wrote:Are we to assume that you got this directly from the volume, Greek Grammar So Far Beyond the Basics that You'd Never Have Guessed It in Your Wildest Imagination? :D
That's the funniest thing I've read on B-Greek for a long time ...

Re: Ghost of Christmas Future Imperfect Conditional

Posted: December 17th, 2015, 6:50 pm
by Stephen Hughes
cwconrad wrote:
Stephen Hughes wrote:How about this for a translation?
  • Ἰδοὺ εἶπον ἡμῖν τοῖς μὴ μετανοήσασι ἄν τὰ ἐπιγενησόμενα.
I'm somewhat confused about the syntactical function of ἄν here; Is it intended to imply, "I would have told you ... "? or "those who would never have repented"? I take it does not refer to the final phrase and mean "things things that would have happened." I suspect we have a case here of the fallacy of the inclusive ἁν. :D
Perhaps we should take this further in the composition sub-forum. The fate of ἄν in syntactic transforms from conditional sentences to articular participles?

Re: Ghost of Christmas Future Imperfect Conditional

Posted: December 17th, 2015, 11:37 pm
by Thomas Dolhanty
cwconrad wrote:Are we to assume that you got this directly from the volume, Greek Grammar So Far Beyond the Basics that You'd Never Have Guessed It in Your Wildest Imagination? :D
  • Σκροῦγε: Oh no Ghost not this, please!
    Ghost: Yes, Σκροῦγε, you see these ones who keep trying to line up the funny looking words with the other ones.
    Σκροῦγε: I've seen too much already!
    Ghost: Do you remember what they kept saying to you?
    Σκροῦγε: …… ohhhhhhhh ….
    Ghost: They said, “We can’t remember 67 kinds of genitive!” didn’t they? And what did you say, Σκροῦγε?
    Σκροῦγε: …… No please ….
    Ghost: Yes. You said, “They have their interlinears, don’t they? Let them go to their interlinears!”