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Is anyone aware of a detailed study of the senses of πάλιν? Or of phasal adverbs in general (ἔτι, ἤδη, etc.)?
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Does anyone know anything about this new lexicon?
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Looks like tool for people who are intimidated by the standard reference works. Those who have been using the lexicons for ages will not need this book. Perhaps it is somewhat like the abbreviated Danker but at 96 pages it can hardly be considered anything more than a handbook. I will lay odds that Jim West will be first in line at Barns and Nobel to get his copy. This is the same G. Beale with the commentary on revelation, right?
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I found a Bibliography about Greek Particles (1935-2010) by Martín Páez about this word and other such words here: http://syntaktika.revues.org/120?lang=en
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Stephen Carlson wrote:I found a Bibliography about Greek Particles (1935-2010) by Martín Páez about this word and other such words here: http://syntaktika.revues.org/120?lang=en
Thanks for posting this comprehensive bibliography.
I discovered the article by Wakker on ἤδη is downloadable from the Syntaktika website
http://portail.univ-st-etienne.fr/bienv ... 9396578550
There are also some remarks on ἤδη in Kühner vol 2 §499
http://archive.org/stream/p2ausfhrliche ... 0/mode/2up
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Stephen Carlson wrote:Does anyone know anything about this new lexicon?
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OK, I've just checked this book out from the library. It's basically a cross-reference index to BDAG, BAGD, Wallace, and Harris, with some extra symbols for logical relationships tossed in. Aside from providing a list of possible glosses and functions, there is almost no guidance for applying them to any particular context. It is probably the most useless reference book on any aspect of Greek I have ever consulted. I can't recommend it.
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Stephen Carlson wrote:
Stephen Carlson wrote:Does anyone know anything about this new lexicon?
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(Click to go to publisher's page.)
OK, I've just checked this book out from the library. It's basically a cross-reference index to BDAG, BAGD, Wallace, and Harris, with some extra symbols for logical relationships tossed in. Aside from providing a list of possible glosses and functions, there is almost no guidance for applying them to any particular context. It is probably the most useless reference book on any aspect of Greek I have ever consulted. I can't recommend it.
Perhaps that helps explain the curious variety of prices listed by Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/psqomo9: $12.96 for the paperback, ($8.01 used!); $9.99 (Kindle),, and, if you choose, you can pay a lot more for other used copies., to name only a few; I suspect that several have bought the book and quickly decided to dump it.
οὔτοι ἀπ’ ἀρχῆς πάντα θεοὶ θνητοῖς ὑπέδειξαν,
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)

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Stephen Carlson wrote:Is anyone aware of a detailed study of the senses of πάλιν? Or of phasal adverbs in general (ἔτι, ἤδη, etc.)?
This isn't quite the same thing, and I have only browsed it, but it seems relevant:

Word Classes, Functions and Syntactic Level: The Case of πάλιν
Antonio R. Revuelta Puigdollers
Universidad Autonoma de Madrid
ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;
http://jonathanrobie.biblicalhumanities.org/
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Jonathan Robie wrote:
Stephen Carlson wrote:Is anyone aware of a detailed study of the senses of πάλιν? Or of phasal adverbs in general (ἔτι, ἤδη, etc.)?
This isn't quite the same thing, and I have only browsed it, but it seems relevant:

Word Classes, Functions and Syntactic Level: The Case of πάλιν
Antonio R. Revuelta Puigdollers
Universidad Autonoma de Madrid
Yes, it's a nice article, and I posted about it here: http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/vie ... =34&t=3080
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Stephen Carlson wrote:Yes, it's a nice article, and I posted about it here: http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/vie ... =34&t=3080
Ooops! I should have read that thread again before responding here.
ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;
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