Example of 3rd decl., velar-stem, ending in χ

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Example of 3rd decl., velar-stem, ending in χ

Post by Mike Baber » January 29th, 2014, 12:21 am

Hello,

Could anyone offer an example of a 3rd declension noun derived from a velar-stem ending in the letter χ?

Other examples:
- σάρξ, from velar-stem ending in κ: σάρκ-
- αἴξ, from velar-stem ending in γ: αἰγ-

Just need a velar-stem ending in χ.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Example of 3rd decl., velar-stem, ending in χ

Post by Wes Wood » January 29th, 2014, 12:50 am

θριξ, σαρδονυξ, and ψιξ are the only ones I can think of.
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Re: Example of 3rd decl., velar-stem, ending in χ

Post by Stephen Hughes » January 29th, 2014, 6:06 pm

σαρδόνυξ, -υχος, ὁ sardonyx
θρίξ, τριχός, ἡ, dat. pl. θριξίν hair [Grassmann's law states that if an aspirated consonant is followed by another aspirated consonant in the next syllable, the first one loses the aspiration. ]
ψίξ , ψιχός, ὁ and ἡ, nom. pl. ψῖχες crumb

Where do you remember ψίξ from?
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Re: Example of 3rd decl., velar-stem, ending in χ

Post by Wes Wood » January 29th, 2014, 6:42 pm

Stephen Hughes wrote:
Where do you remember ψίξ from?
If you mean where I read it, it would most likely be Mt. 15:27 or Lk. 16:21
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Learning diminutive forms.

Post by Stephen Hughes » January 30th, 2014, 9:14 am

Matthew 15:27, Mark 7:28, Luke 16:21 (RP) wrote:ἀπὸ τῶν ψιχίων
Do you learn the diminutive as a form of the regular form of a noun, perhaps like the compartive and superlative are (not) learnt as a form of the adjective.

[I ask because I did learn vocabulary in that way a very long time ago (in the 1980's), but later learnt the regular and diminutive forms separately]
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Re: Example of 3rd decl., velar-stem, ending in χ

Post by Wes Wood » January 30th, 2014, 11:22 am

I learned them separately. To be honest, I might never have known there was a difference if I hadn't explored a lexicon instead of vocabulary lists.
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Re: Example of 3rd decl., velar-stem, ending in χ

Post by Ken M. Penner » January 30th, 2014, 11:56 am

Mike Baber wrote: Could anyone offer an example of a 3rd declension noun derived from a velar-stem ending in the letter χ?
Funk;s BIGHG has an appendix listing nouns by morphology, at http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/project/f ... p-2-a.html
Under nouns III.1.b he has
αἴξ, αίγός, ὁ or ἡ
άλώτηξ, -εκος, ἡ
ἄνθραξ -ακος, ὁ
ἄρπαξ, -άγος, ὁ
γυνή, -αικός, ἡ
δεσμοθύλαξ, -ακος,
δράξ, δρακός, ἡ
θρίξ, τριχός, ἡ
θῶραξ, -ακος, δ
κῆρυξ, -υκος, ὁ
Κίλιξ, -ικος, ὁ
κλίμαξ, -ακος, ἡ
κόραξ, -ακος, ὁ
λάρυγξ, -υγγος, ὁ
μάστιξ, -ιγος, ἡ
νύξ/ νυκτός, ἡ
ὄμφαΕ/ -ακος, ἡ
ὄρνιξ, -ιχος, ὁ and ἡ
πίναξ, -ακος, ἡ
πλάξ, πλακός, ἡ
πτέρυξ, -υγος, ἡ
σάλπιγξ, -ιγγoς, ἡ
σαρδόνυξ, -υχος, ὁ
σάρξ, -σαρκός, ἡ
σκώληξ -ηκος, ὁ
στύραξ, -ακος, ό
φάραγξ, -αγγος, ἡ
Φῆδιξ, -ικος, ὁ
φλόξ, φλογός, ἡ
Φόίνιξ -ικος, ὁ
Φρύξ, -υγός, ὁ
φύλαξ, -ακος, ὁ
χάλιξ, -ικος, ὁ
χάραξ, -ακος, ὁ
χοίνιξ, -ικος, ἡ
ψιξ, -ικός, ἡ
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Re: Example of 3rd decl., velar-stem, ending in χ

Post by Ken M. Penner » January 30th, 2014, 12:01 pm

Ken M. Penner wrote: ψιξ, -ικός, ἡ
I see this is a typo in the first and online editions. I wonder if it has been fixed in the recent book edition.
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Re: Example of 3rd decl., velar-stem, ending in χ

Post by Wes Wood » January 30th, 2014, 1:30 pm

ὄρνιξ, -ιχος, ὁ and ἡ

An alternate spelling for hen?
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Re: Example of 3rd decl., velar-stem, ending in χ

Post by Wes Wood » January 30th, 2014, 1:34 pm

Ah. Found it thanks for that.
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