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Χριστός ανέστη
Posted: April 5th, 2015, 4:16 pm
by Jonathan Robie
An Easter greeting (a week early for the Orthodox)
Χριστός ανέστη!
Χριστός ανέστη εκ νεκρών,
θανάτω θάνατον πατήσας,
και τοις εν τοις μνήμασι,
ζωὴν χαρισάμενος!
Re: Χριστός ανέστη
Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:45 am
by Paul-Nitz
ἀνέστη γε. καίτοι ἀναστηθάμεθα ἡμεῖς.
Re: Χριστός ανέστη
Posted: April 6th, 2015, 6:01 am
by cwconrad
Paul-Nitz wrote:ἀνέστη γε. καίτοι ἀναστηθάμεθα ἡμεῖς.
ἀναστησόμεθα? ἀνασταθησόμεθα?
Re: Χριστός ανέστη
Posted: April 6th, 2015, 10:18 am
by Stephen Hughes
Perhaps ἑστάκαμεν "(now) we are standing" or ἀνιστάμεθα "we are being raised" or ἀνεστάθημεν "we were raised"
Re: Χριστός ανέστη
Posted: April 6th, 2015, 10:56 am
by Stephen Hughes
Stephen Hughes wrote:ἑστάκαμεν "(now) we are standing"
Sorry ἑστήκαμεν. I don't use the prefix here because standing after being raised is different from the raising. I have probably strayed theologically and confused the terms ἐγείρω and ἀνίστημι.
Re: Χριστός ανέστη
Posted: April 6th, 2015, 2:03 pm
by Paul-Nitz
ναί, ὀρθόν ἐστι τὸ ἀναστησόμεθα... ἤ δυνάμεθα λέγειν Ἐγερθησόμεθα.
ἐν τῇ γραφῇ οὐ δύναμαι τὸ ἀνασταθησ[όμεθα] εὑρεῖν.
Re: ἀνίστασθαι and ἐγείρεσθαι morphology
Posted: April 7th, 2015, 7:53 am
by cwconrad
Paul-Nitz wrote:ἀνέστη γε. καίτοι ἀναστηθάμεθα ἡμεῖς.
I assumed that Paul meant to say, "He has risen; indeed we (too) shall rise" -- but the form "ἀναστηθάμεθα" seemed a bit, shall we say, "ἰχθυόεσσα"?
The forms for ἀνίστασθαι in the sense "rise up" or "rise from the dead" are: pres: ἀνίστασθαι; fut: ἀναστήσεσθαι; aor. ἀναστῆναι/ἀνασταθῆναι; pf. ἀνεστηκέναι -- the form ἀνασταθήσεσθαι is not attested. The form for "we shall rise" is ἀναστησόμεθα.
The forms for ἐγείρεσθαι in he sense "rise up" or "rise from the dead" are: pres: ἐγείρεσθαι; fut: ἐγερθήσεσθαι; aor: ἐγερθῆναι; pf: ἐγρηγορέναι/ἐγηγέρσθαι. The form for "we shall rise/be raised" is ἐγερθησόμεθα.
Re: Χριστός ανέστη
Posted: April 11th, 2015, 5:15 am
by Paul-Nitz
ἅ ἅ. Good one, Carl.
Yes, I was "fishing" for the right form there and landed a μορφήν ἰχθυόεσσαν.
ἅ ἅ or ἇ ἇ, to express laughter, ha, ha,
ἰχθυόεις, εσσα, εν, (ἰχθύς) full of fish, fishy
Liddell and Scott’s Greek-English lexicon, abridged