Analysis of the Expression μετὰ δόξης ἐξ οὐρανῶν μετὰ τῆς ἀγγελικῆς αὐτοῦ στρατιᾶς παραγενήσεσθαι κεκήρυκται

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Analysis of the Expression μετὰ δόξης ἐξ οὐρανῶν μετὰ τῆς ἀγγελικῆς αὐτοῦ στρατιᾶς παραγενήσεσθαι κεκήρυκται

Post by Bernd Strauss » July 13th, 2018, 10:56 am

Justin Martyr, First Apology, extract from chapter 52: “Ἐπειδὴ τοίνυν τὰ γενόμενα ἤδη πάντα ἀποδείκνυμεν πρὶν ἢ γενέσθαι προκεκηρύχθαι διὰ τῶν προφητῶν, ἀνάγκη καὶ περὶ τῶν ὁμοίως προφητευθέντων, μελλόντων δὲ γίνεσθαι, πίστιν ἔχειν ὡς πάντως γενησομένων. ὃν γὰρ τρόπον τὰ ἤδη γενόμενα προκεκηρυγμένα καὶ ἀγνοούμενα ἀπέβη, τὸν αὐτὸν τρόπον καὶ τὰ λείποντα, κἂν ἀγνοῆται καὶ ἀπιστῆται, ἀποβήσονται. δύο γὰρ αὐτοῦ παρουσίας προεκήρυξαν οἱ προφῆται· μίαν μέν, τὴν ἤδη γενομένην, ὡς ἀτίμου καὶ παθητοῦ ἀνθρώπου, τὴν δὲ δευτέραν, ὅταν μετὰ δόξης ἐξ οὐρανῶν μετὰ τῆς ἀγγελικῆς αὐτοῦ στρατιᾶς παραγενήσεσθαι κεκήρυκται, ὅτε καὶ τὰ σώματα ἀνεγερεῖ πάντων τῶν γενομένων ἀνθρώπων, καὶ τῶν μὲν ἀξίων ἐνδύσει ἀφθαρσίαν.”

Translation from Philip Schaff’s Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 1: “Since, then, we prove that all things which have already happened had been predicted by the prophets before they came to pass, we must necessarily believe also that those things which are in like manner predicted, but are yet to come to pass, shall certainly happen. For as the things which have already taken place came to pass when foretold, and even though unknown, so shall the things that remain, even though they be unknown and disbelieved, yet come to pass. For the prophets have proclaimed two advents of his: the one, that which is already past, when he came as a dishonoured and suffering man; but the second, when, according to prophecy, he shall come from heaven with glory, accompanied by his angelic host, when also he shall raise the bodies of all men who have lived, and shall clothe those of the worthy with immortality.”

I need to know whether the word παραγενήσεσθαι is linked with the expression μετὰ δόξης ἐξ οὐρανῶν μετὰ τῆς ἀγγελικῆς αὐτοῦ στρατιᾶς and is rendered as "come." Or is παραγενήσεσθαι grammatically linked with κεκήρυκται?

Is κεκήρυκται rendered as "according to prophecy"?
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Post by Stirling Bartholomew » July 13th, 2018, 2:12 pm

Bernd Strauss wrote:
July 13th, 2018, 10:56 am
Justin Martyr, First Apology, extract from chapter 52: “Ἐπειδὴ τοίνυν τὰ γενόμενα ἤδη πάντα ἀποδείκνυμεν πρὶν ἢ γενέσθαι προκεκηρύχθαι διὰ τῶν προφητῶν, ἀνάγκη καὶ περὶ τῶν ὁμοίως προφητευθέντων, μελλόντων δὲ γίνεσθαι, πίστιν ἔχειν ὡς πάντως γενησομένων. ὃν γὰρ τρόπον τὰ ἤδη γενόμενα προκεκηρυγμένα καὶ ἀγνοούμενα ἀπέβη, τὸν αὐτὸν τρόπον καὶ τὰ λείποντα, κἂν ἀγνοῆται καὶ ἀπιστῆται, ἀποβήσονται. δύο γὰρ αὐτοῦ παρουσίας προεκήρυξαν οἱ προφῆται· μίαν μέν, τὴν ἤδη γενομένην, ὡς ἀτίμου καὶ παθητοῦ ἀνθρώπου, τὴν δὲ δευτέραν, ὅταν μετὰ δόξης ἐξ οὐρανῶν μετὰ τῆς ἀγγελικῆς αὐτοῦ στρατιᾶς παραγενήσεσθαι κεκήρυκται, ὅτε καὶ τὰ σώματα ἀνεγερεῖ πάντων τῶν γενομένων ἀνθρώπων, καὶ τῶν μὲν ἀξίων ἐνδύσει ἀφθαρσίαν.”

Translation from Philip Schaff’s Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 1: “Since, then, we prove that all things which have already happened had been predicted by the prophets before they came to pass, we must necessarily believe also that those things which are in like manner predicted, but are yet to come to pass, shall certainly happen. For as the things which have already taken place came to pass when foretold, and even though unknown, so shall the things that remain, even though they be unknown and disbelieved, yet come to pass. For the prophets have proclaimed two advents of his: the one, that which is already past, when he came as a dishonoured and suffering man; but the second, when, according to prophecy, he shall come from heaven with glory, accompanied by his angelic host, when also he shall raise the bodies of all men who have lived, and shall clothe those of the worthy with immortality.”

I need to know whether the word παραγενήσεσθαι is linked with the expression μετὰ δόξης ἐξ οὐρανῶν μετὰ τῆς ἀγγελικῆς αὐτοῦ στρατιᾶς and is rendered as "come." Or is παραγενήσεσθαι grammatically linked with κεκήρυκται?

Is κεκήρυκται rendered as "according to prophecy"?
This is a long complex "sentence" (what ever that means) beginning with δύο γὰρ αὐτοῦ παρουσίας προεκήρυξαν οἱ προφῆται. It looks to me like κεκήρυκται is an echo of προεκήρυξαν. Clause final position perhaps suggests that it is kind of an afterthought that qualifies the entire second stage of the prediction ὅταν μετὰ δόξης ... παραγενήσεσθαι. Yes the translator rendered κεκήρυκται as "according to prophecy" and παραγενήσεσθαι as "come." παραγενήσεσθαι is qualified by both what precedes and follows.

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Post by Bernd Strauss » July 14th, 2018, 11:49 am

Thank you for the explanation. I can see that the word παραγενήσεσθαι is linked with the preceding expression (μετὰ δόξης ἐξ οὐρανῶν μετὰ τῆς ἀγγελικῆς αὐτοῦ στρατιᾶς). So it refers to a coming in the context.
The Greek text is from an old offline version of TLG. But it must be the same as the text in the current online version.
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Post by Jonathan Robie » July 14th, 2018, 1:39 pm

Bernd Strauss wrote:
July 14th, 2018, 11:49 am
The Greek text is from an old offline version of TLG.
You can read it in the Scaife viewer here:

https://scaife.perseus.org/reader/urn:c ... pp-grc1:52
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Post by Bernd Strauss » July 15th, 2018, 7:03 am

Jonathan Robie wrote:
July 14th, 2018, 1:39 pm
Bernd Strauss wrote:
July 14th, 2018, 11:49 am
The Greek text is from an old offline version of TLG.
You can read it in the Scaife viewer here:

https://scaife.perseus.org/reader/urn:c ... pp-grc1:52
I was not aware of the current state of the new Perseus database project. A search shows that the new database has a lot of texts from Christian writers, whereas the older version mainly contains secular writings.
https://scaife.perseus.org/search/?kind ... q=παρουσία

I am using the offline version of TLG, disk E, in Diogenes software (which may be one of the best; I do not know how other programs work with the offline database). This version seems to have more texts than any free online databases.
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