Andreas; What fills the temple? Rev. 15:8a

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Andreas; What fills the temple? Rev. 15:8a

Post by Stirling Bartholomew » February 19th, 2019, 3:07 pm

Rev. 15:8 NA27 καὶ ἐγεμίσθη ὁ ναὸς καπνοῦ ἐκ τῆς δόξης τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ ἐκ τῆς δυνάμεως αὐτοῦ, καὶ οὐδεὶς ἐδύνατο εἰσελθεῖν εἰς τὸν ναὸν ἄχρι τελεσθῶσιν αἱ ἑπτὰ πληγαὶ τῶν ἑπτὰ ἀγγέλων.
Andreas[1]: Διὰ τοῦ καπνοῦ τὸ φοβερὸν καὶ καταπληκτικὸν τῆς θείας ὀργῆς μανθάνομεν, ἧς πληροῦσθαι τὸν ναὸν διδασκόμεθα, καὶ κατὰ τῶν ἀξίων αὐτῆς χωρεῖν ἐν τῷ καιρῷ τῆς κρίσεως, καὶ πρὸ ταύτης δὲ κατὰ τῶν τῷ Ἀντιχρίστῳ πειθομένων καὶ τὰ τῆς ἀποστασίας ἔργα πραττόντων. τοῦτο δὲ τοῖς ἑξῆς δείκνυται.
The antecedent of ἧς appears to be τῆς θείας ὀργῆς. That's the way Eugenia S. Constantinou (2011) translates it:
Through the smoke we learn the frightfulness, awesomeness and chastisement of divine wrath, with which the temple is filled ...


[1] Catenae (Novum Testamentum), Commentarius In Apocalypsin (Pseudo-Oecumenii) (E Cod. Coislin.Commentarius In Apocalypsin (Pseudo-Oecumenii) (E Cod. Coislin.
Book 15 Chapter 8 (15.8)
https://scaife.perseus.org/reader/urn:c ... q=&qk=form

postscript: If someone wants to check this against J. Schmid 1955, I wouldn't object.
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Re: Andreas; What fills the temple? Rev. 15:8a

Post by Stirling Bartholomew » February 20th, 2019, 1:24 pm

Smoke metaphor in Apocalypse 15:8
Rev. 15:7 καὶ ἓν ἐκ τῶν τεσσάρων ζῴων ἔδωκεν τοῖς ἑπτὰ ἀγγέλοις ἑπτὰ φιάλας χρυσᾶς γεμούσας τοῦ θυμοῦ τοῦ θεοῦ τοῦ ζῶντος εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων. 8 καὶ ἐγεμίσθη ὁ ναὸς καπνοῦ ἐκ τῆς δόξης τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ ἐκ τῆς δυνάμεως αὐτοῦ, καὶ οὐδεὶς ἐδύνατο εἰσελθεῖν εἰς τὸν ναὸν ἄχρι τελεσθῶσιν αἱ ἑπτὰ πληγαὶ τῶν ἑπτὰ ἀγγέλων.
γεμούσας τοῦ θυμοῦ τοῦ θεοῦ ... ἐγεμίσθη ὁ ναὸς καπνοῦ
Here “filled with smoke” is parallel to “filled with the wrath of God” (v7b), which serves to interpret the metaphorical meaning of smoke.”
David Aune (WBC 52b Rev. v2, p880)


Aune goes on to talk at length about the significance of smoke in biblical theophanies. Reading the whole paragraph appears to make the quoted portion above problematic. Aune was either unaware or disinterested in the comments of Andreas on this passage.
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