ὄρνις vs ὄρνις

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Re: ὄρνις vs ὄρνις

Post by Louis L Sorenson » June 26th, 2015, 11:52 pm

A search of TLGe returns 691 instances of ἡ θεός, in Plutarch, Aesop, many scholia, Athanasius, Dio Chrystostom, Chariton, Athenaeus (Deipnosophistae), among other writers.
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Re: ὄρνις vs ὄρνις and gender "anomalies" that aren't

Post by Mark Lightman » June 27th, 2015, 4:53 pm

cwconrad wrote:...gender "anomalies" that aren't...
ἡ γαμοῦσα?
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Re: ὄρνις vs ὄρνις and gender "anomalies" that aren't

Post by cwconrad » June 27th, 2015, 6:53 pm

Mark Lightman wrote:
cwconrad wrote:...gender "anomalies" that aren't...
ἡ γαμοῦσα?
πῶς γὰρ οὔ; ὁ τοῦ ᾿Αριστοφάνου Σωκράτης τὴν ἀλεκτρύαιναν ἔδειξεν (Ar. Nubes.666).
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οὔτοι ἀπ’ ἀρχῆς πάντα θεοὶ θνητοῖς ὑπέδειξαν,
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)

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Re: ὄρνις vs ὄρνις

Post by DanielBuck » June 29th, 2015, 5:14 pm

Stephen Hughes wrote:Probably making a pair of ὁ ἀλέκτωρ (-ορος) and ἡ ὄρνις (-ιθος) along with 2.4 τὰ νοσσία buckled into the back seat would make a better basis for the coddling of beginners than declensional similarities do.
I'll say. I've learned Spanish and Arabic in the classroom, and tackled Hebrew, Greek, and French by independent study, but I've never encountered a "first declension" by such a name. I could, however, instantly translate the above into "the cock, the hen, and the[ir] young." Actually, owning all three, I would assign each ἀλέκτωρ at least five ὄρνις, with the aggregate number of νοσσία way beyond the capacity of a poultry-sized minivan.
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