Re: Mat 6:13 Who is addressed?
Posted: October 22nd, 2012, 8:28 pm
Strong's is not a proper resource for any kind of real work in ancient Greek. There are much better lexigraphical resources, and nobody who actually knows Greek thinks that ῥύομαι in any way is related to ῤέω. You are simply in error here.Roy Fredrick wrote: Thank you kindly for your response, however here is the link: ῥύομαι (ρυ-, ρυ·σ-, ρυ·σ-, -, -, ρυσ·θ-) 1aor mp imp 2nd sg
4506 ῥύομαι Root: middle voice of an obsolete verb, akin to <G4482> (through the idea of a current, cf <G4511>)ῥύσις
Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary.
What you've done is simply linked two separate entries that otherwise have nothing to do with each other.ρυω or rather ῥύομαι to draw out, extract; to extricate, rescue
1.a. pass. ρυσθω, in pl. ρυσθωμεν, 1.a. sub. pass. of ρυομαι. ρυσει, d. sin. cont.Att. of ρυσις. ρυσιδιφρος (fr. ρυω to draw)
ρυσιον (fr. ρυω to draw) ransom, sacrifice on deliverance. ῥύσις, Att. εως, (fr. ῥύομαι to deliver) . ῥύσις ῥύσιoς Att. εως, η, (fr. ρεω to flow) a flux, runnung; a stream, course
A Greek and English Dictionary, designed for use of schools and the undergraduate course of a collegiate education. Rev John Groves 1834
Even if this were true, it's an opinion not related to the understanding of the Greek of the passage under discussion.We know how our very familiarity with Scriptural language is apt to blind us to its full significance!
These citations have nothing to do with the Greek syntax and vocabulary which you are trying to discuss.The flowing water of the Holy Spirit: Revelation 7:17 (YLT)
17 because the Lamb that is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters, and wipe away shall God every tear from their eyes.'
Luke 11:13 (ESV)
13 If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”
1 Corinthians 13:1 (ESV) 1 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
These kinds of sentence fragments make your posts extremely difficult to understand.Lord's prayer Christian life, especially in view of the second advent, Mt 6 9-13
Now, a second warning -- you really need to learn some Greek before you post anymore on any subject, or at least demonstrate that you are making progress in learning the language in a meaningful way. A third warning will put you on moderation.