εξιλάσομαι
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εξιλάσομαι
Why is the Hebrew word "Kaphar" translated as εξιλάσομαι G1837.2 in the Septuagint? I don't see the connection between "covering" and "echo"?
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I'm not sure what the reference "G1837.2" is supposed to refer to -- perhapsMichael Davis wrote:Why is the Hebrew word "Kaphar" translated as εξιλάσομαι G1837.2 in the Septuagint? I don't see the connection between "covering" and "echo"?
The verb in question is ἐξιλάσκομαι; the form you've cited is the future 1 sg. indic. active. The Hebrew verb here used in the Masoretic text does bear the sense "propitiate", so I can't see where the problem lies.Gen 32:21 καὶ ἐρεῖτε Ἰδοὺ ὁ παῖς σου Ιακωβ παραγίνεται ὀπίσω ἡμῶν. εἶπεν γάρ Ἐξιλάσομαι τὸ πρόσωπον αὐτοῦ ἐν τοῖς δώροις τοῖς προπορευομένοις αὐτοῦ, καὶ μετὰ τοῦτο ὄψομαι τὸ πρόσωπον αὐτοῦ· ἴσως γὰρ προσδέξεται τὸ πρόσωπόν μου.
οὔτοι ἀπ’ ἀρχῆς πάντα θεοὶ θνητοῖς ὑπέδειξαν,
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
ἀλλὰ χρόνῳ ζητέοντες ἐφευρίσκουσιν ἄμεινον. (Xenophanes, Fragment 16)
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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Re: εξιλάσομαι
Looks like a Strong's Number to me.cwconrad wrote:I'm not sure what the reference "G1837.2" is supposed to refer toMichael Davis wrote:Why is the Hebrew word "Kaphar" translated as εξιλάσομαι G1837.2 in the Septuagint? I don't see the connection between "covering" and "echo"?
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Re: εξιλάσομαι
I suspect the confusion comes from the "Strong's" number, in which G1837 is ἐξηχέω / ἐξηχέομαι and G1837.2 is ἐξιλάσκομαι.Michael Davis wrote:Why is the Hebrew word "Kaphar" translated as εξιλάσομαι G1837.2 in the Septuagint? I don't see the connection between "covering" and "echo"?
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Professor and Chair of Religious Studies, St. Francis Xavier University
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General Editor, Lexham English Septuagint
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That must be it. Note that the ".2" part covers extensions to the original scheme (I guess to cover the LXX), so if one is looking at the original or NT-only form of Strong's, one will only find ἐξηχέω "echo".Ken M. Penner wrote:I suspect the confusion comes from the "Strong's" number, in which G1837 is ἐξηχέω / ἐξηχέομαι and G1837.2 is ἐξιλάσκομαι.Michael Davis wrote:Why is the Hebrew word "Kaphar" translated as εξιλάσομαι G1837.2 in the Septuagint? I don't see the connection between "covering" and "echo"?
Stephen C. Carlson, Ph.D.
Melbourne, Australia
Melbourne, Australia