Smyth chapter 2364 wrote:
Imperative.—““εἴ τις τάδε παραβαίνοι . . ., ἐναγὴς ἔστω” if any one transgresses these injunctions, let him be accursed” Aes. 3.110 (quoted from an ancient imprecation), ““τὸ μὲν δὴ ἀργύριον, εἰ μή τις ἐπίσταιτο αὐτῷ χρῆσθαι, οὕτω πόρρω ἀπωθείσθω ὥστε μηδὲ χρήματα εἶναι” but as regards money then, if a man does not know how to use it, let him remove it so far from his consideration as not to be regarded even as property” X. O. 1.14. Cp. P. Hipp. M. 297e, L. 642 a.
I know it is hard to believe, but I did not see this as I was working through the text and hints. I had a some degree of difficulty with οὕτω πόρρω ἀπωθείσθω initially, but, by the time I finished writing my hints, I was confident about what the text was saying. To see this verification of that after having worked to that understanding is extremely encouraging to me. This is very similar to what I would’ve done, had I done my translation after I finished writing my hints.
Stephen Hughes wrote:Perhaps it is better to use a leading question to achieve the result, rather than prove the mettle.
I agree with you here.
Stephen Hughes wrote:"Too bloody right!" might recontextualise the same feeling.
I was under the impression that this particular phrase and the more standard way of expressing the thought in America is offensive to some speakers of English. I thought that the strangeness of the phrase I used would lighten the blow but still get the point across. I haven’t yet thought of a way to express this phrase that I am pleased with though, with your suggestion, I am becoming more confident that I understand it.
Stephen Hughes wrote:It is an abstraction of the idea in other words.
Yes. Once again this is a much better way to put it.
Stephen Hughes wrote:μᾶλλον ἢ is an adverb, and πολύ just makes it stronger, like "much". What do you mean by your last sentence?
I agree with you here. When I wrote the last sentence, I was wondering about all the ways that friends could prove to be more “wealth” than cattle and thought that even if one had friends that did not prove as lucrative as livestock might, they might be more useful in less tangible ways. I don’t know if that makes sense. It seems later than it is to me; I have had a long day.
Stephen Hughes wrote:Why is this comparative of the adverb constructed synthetically? (rather than with πλείων, πλέων)
I’m not really sure. I have wondered if this is why I feel like I am missing something here. I am glad I have been thinking about these things more. I think I would have glossed over this six months ago.
Stephen Hughes wrote:οἱ ἐχθροί...εἰσι - enemies is most likely the subject of this verb rather than χρήματά. Note the presence of the article. Note the number of the verb.
I am glad you mentioned this. I can understand why this plural would have a singular subject, but I am unfamiliar with the workings of many of these types of constructions. (singular noun with plural subjects and/or plural subjects with singular verbs and/or singular nouns for collective nouns) This verse in Galatians 5:22 planted the seed: ὁ δὲ καρπὸς τοῦ πνεύματός ἐστιν ἀγάπη, χαρά, εἰρήνη, μακροθυμία, χρηστότης, ἀγαθωσύνη, πίστις,
Stephen Hughes wrote:οἰκονόμου ἄρα ἐστὶν ἀγαθοῦ this is a very laconic phrase, what do you make of it? The copula requires a nominative, so let's supply one, "<The such and such> of a good manager is..." It is then followed by an infinitive phrase καὶ τοῖς ἐχθροῖς ἐπίστασθαι χρῆσθαι, so it needs to be a noun that can be put with an infinitive of purpose. To my mind, words like "duty", "goal / aim", "requirement" would work better than "expectation" - which comes from outside himself, or "work" which of itself doesn't have goals, but that is more my understanding of the English words, so I have left them untranslated into Greek
This was an oversight on my part. I wasn’t pleased with my rendering here and meant to come back to it. That being said, I agree with you.
Stephen Hughes wrote:Some readers will need to be prompted that the grammar of the first phrase is in effect repeated in the second by using this construction. Such as you would have needed to have been prompted to do if you had not had the reading experience that you have in fact had over the past 6 months or so.
Stephen Hughes wrote:ὅσοι...οἶκοι ἰδιωτῶν ηὐξημένοι εἰσὶν - maybe it would help to think of this phrase as ὅσοι οἶκοι ἰδιωτῶν εἰσὶν ηὐξημένοι. Why?
I believe I meant to arrange this differently than I actually did. I’m not so convinced that it was the best idea. This stretch was the most difficult in the passage for me.
Stephen Hughes wrote:since war often entail[s] the involuntary genetic enrichment of households by invading forces, and that is not what is meant here.
I see how you got there, and I think your words here apply to me in this situation. “If we are shown features of a road that is not in an area that we are familiar with we are limited in our thinking and only look alternatively at the details and then overview features of what we see in the photo and build up an understanding of what we see in that way.” You had the benefit of an overhead view