Koine Greek Chat webpage

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Brett Hancock
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Koine Greek Chat webpage

Post by Brett Hancock » November 6th, 2015, 8:44 pm

Hello everyone
Is there a way to type greek characters, or do I have to do a copy and paste to achieve that? :D
I am working on a website to teach early Christianity (first couple centuries), messianic prophecies to show how the apostles preached, share Koine Greek resources that I might develop over time with those learning, and some other biblical material. I am still learning Koine Greek, only been studying most days (a couple hours per day) for a bit over a year now but want to share what I can.

On my new website, I plan to provide the ability to chat, like Facebook that provides it in English, however it will be for Koine Greek students to chat with each others in greek and practice what they are learning. I will have a keyboard displayed with a visual indication of what keys are the greek alphabet, mapped similar when possible to our alphabet keys, so that users logged in can know what keys to press on their regular keyboard to produce greek characters on the screen in the Chat textbox. This is so everyone can practice Koine greek at their level with others. I believe in doing so, this repetitive natural practice of what we are learning with others, will accelerate learning, solidify it into our long term memories as has happened with English so that we can start thinking Greek, rather than have to translate. Lots of repetition does that.

Who would be interested in this sort of Chat program?
... but it won't be an App, it will be on a webpage that will require registration. Imagine you are typing Greek characters to chat with others. Not just translating sentences and paragraphs, but forming them yourself as you type and interpreting what you receive. This seems to me to really be a powerful way to practice what you're learning as long as who you chat with is near your level. Any practical suggestions how to ensure that would be appreciated.

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Re: Koine Greek Chat webpage

Post by Stephen Hughes » January 18th, 2016, 6:46 pm

I noticed this post when it appeared. I like this idea. I live on my phone, though, not on my computer. I would like the option of speaking as well as typing as a form of asynchronous communication. There seem to be many software solutions readily available. What's lacking is people. Communication happens best and is most required between people who interact frequently and who are socially, professionally or emotionally close to one another.

Within this online community there are a number of factors that deter second language acquisition. The major on is that most of us are native speakers of the culturally (and media) dominant language English and stepping away from that is a step towards ineptitude and frustration. Second is that there is no " critical mass" community to join into. Most people would like to join a group rather than be pioneers. Thirdly, our interests vary enough that they appear scattered. People like different topics or concentrate on different aspects of the language or vocabulary topics.

If you have a solution for those things, you may achieve some success.
Γελᾷ δ' ὁ μωρός, κἄν τι μὴ γέλοιον ᾖ
(Menander, Γνῶμαι μονόστιχοι 108)

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Re: Koine Greek Chat webpage

Post by Tim Evans » January 19th, 2016, 5:27 am

I'd use it if there were other people to talk to :D

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Re: Koine Greek Chat webpage

Post by Brett Hancock » March 17th, 2017, 1:10 am

Χαιρετε παντες!!

Συγνωμην ἐχετε φιλοι μου. Πολυς χρονος ἐγενετο ἐγω δε οὐκ ἀπεκρίνομην ὑμιν.
I made a lot of progress on a website and then began spending more time with studying Koine greek and some other things. What I want to suggest is what I have done with a few people. I installed the modern greek keyboard on my phone, and use that on Voxer (push to talk) app. If you would be interested in chatting that way, either audibly as we can do there, or typing with the greek keyboard, find me on there.
Brett Hancock
Voxer ID: bhanco731

Χαρις και εἰρηνη ὑμιν
Brett :D

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Re: Koine Greek Chat webpage

Post by Devenios Doulenios » March 24th, 2017, 9:01 am

χαιρε, πως εχεις;

Is the webpage ready yet? I like the chat idea. Not a fast typist, but am willing to try.
"τὴν ζωὴν καὶ τὸν θάνατον δέδωκα πρὸ προσώπου ὑμῶν τὴν εὐλογίαν καὶ τὴν κατάραν ἔκλεξαι τὴν ζωήν ἵνα ζῇς σὺ καὶ τὸ σπέρμα σου"-Dt. 30:19

"Ὁδοὶ δύο εἰσί, μία τῆς ζωῆς καὶ μία τοῦ θανάτου."--Διδαχή Α, α'

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Re: Koine Greek Chat webpage

Post by Jonathan Robie » March 24th, 2017, 10:10 am

As an experiment, I set up a Slack team for chat and invited the people who have weighed in here. Give it a try? If anyone else wants to join the Slack team and chat away in Greek, send me a PM with the email address I should use to subscribe you.

Slack works on smartphones and on computers, and you can use Greek with or without diacritics in messages. One downside: it won't let you have a user name in Greek.
ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;
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Re: Koine Greek Chat webpage

Post by Stephen Hughes » March 24th, 2017, 3:13 pm

Jonathan Robie wrote:
March 24th, 2017, 10:10 am
Give it a try?
A #κενοφωνία? Is that an invitation to sing or make a performance?
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Re: Koine Greek Chat webpage

Post by Jonathan Robie » March 24th, 2017, 4:19 pm

Stephen Hughes wrote:
March 24th, 2017, 3:13 pm
Jonathan Robie wrote:
March 24th, 2017, 10:10 am
Give it a try?
A #κενοφωνία? Is that an invitation to sing or make a performance?
2Tim.2.16: τὰς δὲ βεβήλους κενοφωνίας περιΐστασο·

Chatter.
ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;
http://jonathanrobie.biblicalhumanities.org/

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Re: Koine Greek Chat webpage

Post by Jonathan Robie » March 24th, 2017, 5:29 pm

If anyone wants an invitation to the chat page, let me know, and I can send you an invite via email.
ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;
http://jonathanrobie.biblicalhumanities.org/

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Re: Koine Greek Chat webpage

Post by Stephen Hughes » March 25th, 2017, 1:04 am

Jonathan Robie wrote:
March 24th, 2017, 4:19 pm
Stephen Hughes wrote:
March 24th, 2017, 3:13 pm
Jonathan Robie wrote:
March 24th, 2017, 10:10 am
Give it a try?
A #κενοφωνία? Is that an invitation to sing or make a performance?
2Tim.2.16: τὰς δὲ βεβήλους κενοφωνίας περιΐστασο·

Chatter.
Does that imply that the Apostle didn't know Japanese? (カラオケ kara oke - "empty voice", ie. "Leaving somebody else to make up for the unplayed the vocal track") :lol:
Γελᾷ δ' ὁ μωρός, κἄν τι μὴ γέλοιον ᾖ
(Menander, Γνῶμαι μονόστιχοι 108)

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